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DUSTY HAY

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MARK ROBKE

01-28-2007 09:45:40




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I READ WITH INTEREST THE STRING ABOUT DUSTY HAY.I HAVE SOME ALFALFA,2ND CUTTING,THAT ONLY THE TOP LAYER GOT DUSTY.THIS HAS HAPPENED A COUPLE OF YEARS WHEN WE HAD A WET FALL.SOME MIXED GRASS HAY DID NOT GET DUSTY,NOR DID MY INSIDE STORED ROUND BALES.ON THE SQUARE ALFALFA BALES IT'S ONLY THE TOP LAYER AND ONLY AFTER A WET FALL.THIS IS THE HAY I USUALY SELL SO I DON'T WANT IT DUSTY.ANY THOUGHTS OR IDEAS TO PREVENT THIS?IT IS STORED IN A GOOD DRY BARN.THANKS.

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Hugh MacKay

01-29-2007 04:09:26




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 Re: DUSTY HAY in reply to MARK ROBKE, 01-28-2007 09:45:40  
Mark: As I said in the earlier thread, "RAIN" the biggest source of dust from hay I've seen in my many years. The closer the hay is to being cured, when the rain hits the worse the dust will be. I've seen hay that was still quite green when rain hit and very little dust resulted. You get it to the point it's hours away from baling, and you've got trouble.

If you ted and rake it enough to dry well, you shatter a lot of the material to dust. Also, I've never seen rained on hay that didn't have the ocasional wet spot, and those wet spots are a source of mould. I repeat, the closer to baling when that rain hits, the worse the problem will be.

Your hay contains moisture when mowed, but that moisture is uniform throughout. A windrow almost ready for baling absorbs moisture during rain, problem is it doesn't absorb moisture uniformly, thus it doesn't dry uniformly the second time. Many times I've had 6 outside edge of field windrows rained on. When the weather breaks, one mows the balance of the field. Almost 100% that new mowed hay will bale before the rained on hay.

The problem here is most folks just never get that rained on hay 100% dry, thus they have dust from shattering and mould both. If you get it almost dry twice and rained on each time, you may as well call it compost, particularly if it contains legumes.

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farmallhal

01-28-2007 11:11:31




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 Re: DUSTY HAY in reply to MARK ROBKE, 01-28-2007 09:45:40  
Mark, we had some grass hay get about a quarter inch of rain after it was in square bales and on the ground. Only something like 75 bales got wet after being baled. I've noticed this winter in feeding this to the cows there seems to be a litle dust coming off of it when I throw out the bales in the barn. I'm thinking it is probably some type of mold from being wet but it was well dried in the field for a couple of days before being picked up. I know this is the wet hay as I left it on wagons and fed it from the wagons as first hay used this winter. Haven't noticed anything wrong with using it as cattle eat it just like the other hay which didn't get wet. Might be different for horses though as they seem to be more finicky. Hal

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E.B. Haymakin'

01-28-2007 10:51:47




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 Re: DUSTY HAY in reply to MARK ROBKE, 01-28-2007 09:45:40  
I can't comment on the causes, but I have read on the internet opinions of some veterinarians on dusty hay effects on equine. All were of the opinion it is a dangerous as moldy hay due to the irritation it causes in the lungs. Hope someone can give info on how to avoid baling dusty hay.



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MyrlfromPA

01-28-2007 14:39:43




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 Re: DUSTY HAY in reply to E.B. Haymakin', 01-28-2007 10:51:47  
I will mention it one more time SALT THE DANG STUFF !!! But then again maybe not everyone can afford to put an extra 4 or 5 bucks into a thousand bales of hay..... ..



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Chris in MO

01-28-2007 19:58:24




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 Re: How much and how? in reply to MyrlfromPA, 01-28-2007 14:39:43  
I am curious about how much salt you use and how you apply it? Is it fine mixing salt or rock salt, etc.

Christopher



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MyrlfromPA

01-29-2007 04:35:18




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 Re: How much and how? in reply to Chris in MO, 01-28-2007 19:58:24  
The best way I know to explain the way to salt your hay is spread it over each layer as it is stacked in the mow like you were trying to melt ice. I use a small bucket so i can hang it near and just take a handful at a time and scatter it across each layer of bales evenly. If your hay is a little tought when you bale it only stack it two layers deep. I have often salted it on the wagon (I use kickbaler so they not tight on wagon) then put it away next day. I seen where someone mentioned "research" says salt dont work but trust me it has worked for me my dad my granddad and even when hay was put up loose which was a long time ago we salted it even then. never have i pulled dusty hay from my mow.And I use plain old mixing salt from the feed store.Mostly I get the fine salt because I also use the same salt on my food. Email me if anything else you would like to know. Oh yeah I do have horses myself and sell most of my hay to other horse owners hereabouts.

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Iowa Jim

01-28-2007 16:06:45




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 Re: DUSTY HAY in reply to MyrlfromPA, 01-28-2007 14:39:43  
Salting hay to preven molding has been proven in research setting to be ineffective. However, in a desperation attempt to prevent SURFACE molding, salting may be effective. However it is NOT an effective mold inhibitor compared to organic acids or salts thereof.

Jim



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Dave H (MI)

01-28-2007 14:27:44




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 Re: DUSTY HAY in reply to E.B. Haymakin', 01-28-2007 10:51:47  
You need to look down a couple of pages to see the original thread. Lots of info there.



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