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Breaking up virgin soil - Michigan

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StahlMaster

01-27-2007 09:31:38

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I would like to breakup/level about 1000" X 16" of virgin soil covered with grass/weeds. I"d like to do all the work with my 1951 8N w/step-up and loaded tires. What type of implements would I need? I"m in no hurry to get this done, so if I need to do a few passes, it"s not a problem. Thanks.

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El Toro

01-28-2007 09:19:59

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Re: Breaking up virgin soil - Michigan in reply to StahlMaster, 01-27-2007 09:31:38

Once you have that virgin soil plowed and disked you should have a soil analysis done that area to determine how much lime and fertilizer needs to be applied if your are planning to plant a crop.

An area 16' X 1000' wouldn't take that long to
plow if you had a two way plow. Hal

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johns48jdb

01-27-2007 20:35:12

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Re: Breaking up virgin soil - Michigan in reply to StahlMaster, 01-27-2007 09:31:38

if the weeds are still stqanding i'd mow them with the frail mower and give it a few weeks to rotten a little bit. you can break the ground with a turning plow and the disk it to where the clouds are broken up pretty good. next i'd use a rototiller to prepare my seed bed with. if you have time and have a lot of clumps of roots left you might drag a section harrow over it a few times, waiting a few days in between times to give the roots time to dry out and the dirt on them also. next time you drag it it will knock a lot of the dirt off the roots futher killing the grass. if you want to you can spray the ground with a grass killer. incorporate it per the manufactures direction. wait the amount of time the weed killer says to wait before plnating. put your fertlize out and then till the ground with a tiller or disk it in if you don't have a tiller. sow your grass seed with a seeder mounted on your three point hitch. use your drag harrow one more time to cover your seed and hope for a rain then. i'd prefer to cover the seed with an old wheeled type packer myself, but those are hard to find in some place. good luck

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tractormiallis

01-27-2007 19:57:53

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Re: Breaking up virgin soil - Michigan in reply to StahlMaster, 01-27-2007 09:31:38

Stahl, Im from MI also, and usually in my area come spring there are ads in the local papers, usually the freebie kind, or farm auctions which many have older equipment. Depending on the size of the auction and whatnot, good deals can be had.

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bizkit

01-27-2007 14:38:44

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Re: Breaking up virgin soil - Michigan in reply to StahlMaster, 01-27-2007 09:31:38

well we use a one bottom plow with r 8n then we work it down with r disk and use r drag to finish up to make seed bed but if u in virgin soil one bottom is problay all u gone get through if ur soil iz tight we use r two bootom dearborn after we broke it the first time

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Dave H (MI)

01-27-2007 12:10:45

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Re: Breaking up virgin soil - Michigan in reply to StahlMaster, 01-27-2007 09:31:38

1000x16? Planting a hedge?

My personal favorite around here lately has been a single bottom plow. I have better luck with this than the two bottom. Get at it before the weeds get high. Follow it with a 5-6' disk.
Should work good on 8N.

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StahlMaster

01-27-2007 12:12:11

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Breaking up virgin soil - Michigan in reply to Dave H (MI), 01-27-2007 12:10:45

Thanks. Where can I find a disc for this application?

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Dave H (MI)

01-28-2007 14:31:37

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Re: Breaking up virgin soil - Michigan in reply to StahlMaster, 01-27-2007 12:12:11

Absolutely let people know what you want but you might want to contact the Auction Exchange here in Michigan and get a subscription. The farm auctions start in a couple weeks around the state and you will definitely find a 3 pt disc. Might cost you depending on location. Anywhere there are a lot of people with newer small utilities like Kubotas etc the price will be off the chart.
Check out TSC. Don't know how much but they have new ones. They are out there. HTH Dave

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supergrumpy

01-27-2007 13:01:15

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Re: Breaking up virgin soil - Michigan in reply to StahlMaster, 01-27-2007 12:12:11

where to find it - thats the trick isn't it

drive the backroads slow, watch the equipment ads like a hawk, let people know you are looking for something

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CENTAUR

01-27-2007 10:12:01

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Re: Breaking up virgin soil - Michigan in reply to StahlMaster, 01-27-2007 09:31:38

I think you mean something other than inches.I used a single 16 inch general purpose FERGUSON/SHERMAN moldboard plow with excellent results in low gear.On a 9n ford-ferguson. CENTAUR

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StahlMaster

01-27-2007 12:10:55

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Breaking up virgin soil - Michigan in reply to CENTAUR, 01-27-2007 10:12:01

Yep. The measurements are 1000' X 16'

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Don-Wi

01-27-2007 11:29:22

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Re: Breaking up virgin soil - Michigan in reply to CENTAUR, 01-27-2007 10:12:01

Some computers just put in inches even though you type in feet. It happens when I'm on at school, but not at home.

Also, not picking on you but Ford and Ferguson were 2 different tractor manufacturers. They used to be business partners, but weren't called Ford-Fergusons. Just like a Feguson TO-35 isn't a Massey Ferguson, it's just a Ferguson.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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david from mo

01-27-2007 23:02:43

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Re: Breaking up virgin soil - Michigan in reply to Don-Wi, 01-27-2007 11:29:22

In our area 9n and 2n's were called Ford -Ferguson as they were working together. Just below the Ford name on the grille it had Ferguson System and had two dealer networks ,Ford and Ferguson . May be local custom in our area.After 1947 two companies with the 8n from Ford and te 20/ to 20 from Ferguson.

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jhill52

01-27-2007 10:08:33

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Re: Breaking up virgin soil - Michigan in reply to StahlMaster, 01-27-2007 09:31:38

I live in Mi and have done the same thing. I used a mouldboard plow first and then worked the ground several times with a spring tooth drag. If you need it flatter after that use a landscape rake with wheels. Worked great for me.

Jerry

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StahlMaster

01-27-2007 12:16:10

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Breaking up virgin soil - Michigan in reply to jhill52, 01-27-2007 10:08:33

Thanks Jerry. I'm looking into getting a plow and a spring tooth drag.

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tractormiallis

01-27-2007 10:08:23

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Re: Breaking up virgin soil - Michigan in reply to StahlMaster, 01-27-2007 09:31:38

Might want to recheck your numbers, as you have it youre saying 1000 inches by 16 inches. In that case, the rototiller would do. Perhaps you mean feet.Do you have a disk, moldboard plow, any implements currently? What do you have access to?

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StahlMaster

01-27-2007 12:14:31

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Breaking up virgin soil - Michigan in reply to tractormiallis, 01-27-2007 10:08:23

All I have so far is a backblade, brushhog and flail mower. I'd be willing to trade the flail mower for something if anyone is interested.

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D13

01-28-2007 06:53:38

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Re: Breaking up virgin soil - Michigan in reply to StahlMaster, 01-27-2007 12:14:31

If your flail works good I'll swap you a 6' 3point disc for it. Nice blades, 1 bearing cap cracked but works good. I'm over between Imlay City and Port Huron off I-69.

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StahlMaster

01-28-2007 07:50:19

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Swap in reply to D13, 01-28-2007 06:53:38

When I get up to Lexington I'll get the flail mower hooked up and check out it's operation. I haven't used it in 2 years. We might be able to make a deal.

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hay

01-27-2007 13:03:11

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Re: Breaking up virgin soil - Michigan in reply to StahlMaster, 01-27-2007 12:14:31

what brand of flail mower do you have and is it in usable shape?

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StahlMaster

01-27-2007 13:24:18

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Re: Breaking up virgin soil - Michigan in reply to hay, 01-27-2007 13:03:11

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Matt in the Thumb

01-30-2007 10:04:10

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Re: Breaking up virgin soil - Michigan in reply to StahlMaster, 01-27-2007 13:24:18

Hey you're in my neighborhood. I live in Sandusky, but teach high school in Croswell.

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