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Michael Price

01-26-2007 19:24:04

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A friend told me about some stuff called crater grease. He said they use it on heavy cunstruction equipment thats in the dirt and it sounds like something I would like to try. I was wondering if anyone here has ever heard of it and knows where to find some. I googled it and only found one place that sells it and the smallest they have is in 5gal bucket and I dont need that much. I did read that the rail road uses it alot.

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bcPA

01-27-2007 22:38:26

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Re: Crater grease in reply to Michael Price, 01-26-2007 19:24:04

I worked on a dredge on the del river and they used crater compound on the open gears on the derricks and the hauling gear of the winches that powered the winches that powered the winches that picked up the spuds on the stern and pulled on the swinging anchors and controlled the ladder which is like the boom that did the digging below the surface of the water. It comes in spray cans and also we had it in bulk and kept it in a coffee pot that was heated near a steam line to make it pourable. It is very sticky and makes a sound as the gears go around.

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Rick Kr

01-27-2007 19:42:38

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Re: Crater grease in reply to Michael Price, 01-26-2007 19:24:04

Mike,
Finally, I found the receipt.

It is made by Lubriplate. It is now called Gear shield. Paid $37 for a case or 10 or 12.

Upper lefthand corner of this page below. For "open gears" as they say.

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Rick

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Michael Price

01-27-2007 20:17:27

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Re: Crater grease in reply to Rick Kr, 01-27-2007 19:42:38

Rick, I looked up the site and I looked at the distributors and found that the place where I buy all my bearings sells it. I have there catalog and looked through it and they have a caulk tube for $3.35, a spray can $6.17 and a 5 gal bucket is $89.93.

Is this a really tarry grease that you have?

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Rob in Indiana

01-27-2007 17:17:48

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Re: Crater grease in reply to Michael Price, 01-26-2007 19:24:04

The same product is used today on the swing gears of some hyd excavators. I know Gradall stll uses it and sends a tube with a mew machine from the factory.

Its in a tube and applied with a clacking gun

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Mark

01-27-2007 13:02:19

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Re: Crater grease in reply to Michael Price, 01-26-2007 19:24:04

Yeah I know what it is.....I was an engineer for CSX for 27 years....we called it crater pan grease....it is used to grease the bull gears on locomotives. How much do you need? I MIGHT still have some. It came in plastic bags that held about...oh 2 grease tubes worth. On the railroad, they toss the whole thing in the gear box and the bag just gets chewed up.

I used it on an ancient bushhog that had a bad seal. It is about 400 weight..LOL! It looks just like tar and if you get it on your clothes...it is there forever.

As for using it where dirt is..... it'll pick up every bit of it and make you a nice grinding compound to eat your machinery up. It is really intended for very heavy gears under tremendous load and won't sling off. The bull gear on a diesel locomotive is about 24" tall and 4" or 5" wide. It engages a pinion gear on the traction motor. None of this is exposed to the elements...all is covered by a 'crater pan'.

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Michael Price

01-27-2007 16:39:16

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Re: Crater grease in reply to Mark , 01-27-2007 13:02:19

SO from what you said mark, it sounds like it was made just for a locomotive. The friend of mine that told me about it said that they use it on the undercarrige of dozers. I didnt beleive him, I couldnt see dirt and grease mixing. I wasnt planning on using it on my potato digger like he said, it will last for at least 100 years ungreased. It lasted the last 100 years without it. I would like to use it on my disk though, Since the bearings on the disk gangs are wore in spots because it go bent some how I think crater grease would work good. I think a really thick grease would fill in the wore spots. I was afraid the regular grease would just get pushed out. I would just smeer some on it and put it back together.

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Mark

01-27-2007 18:10:44

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Re: Crater grease in reply to Michael Price, 01-27-2007 16:39:16

I'm not saying it isn't used for other applications! But I do know for fact, that it is used on locomotives. It is really nasty stuff...but was invented for a reason and for that...it works well. I would think the bull gears of a big dozer would use it...but I cannot see it put where it will attract and hold crud and drag it into the drivetrain....that makes no sense at all.

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Michael Price

01-27-2007 20:13:59

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Re: Crater grease in reply to Mark , 01-27-2007 18:10:44

Mark, if you have some you would like to get rid of let me know.

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Mark

01-28-2007 08:14:31

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Re: Crater grease in reply to Michael Price, 01-27-2007 20:13:59

Michael,

Let me search through the barn and see if I can find it. If I do, it's yours for the postage. Is that fair enough? I have been retired for 3 years or I could get some from the RR. Drop me an email.

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Michael Price

01-28-2007 09:22:53

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Re: Crater grease in reply to Mark , 01-28-2007 08:14:31

Mark, I think your going to have to send me a email, I tried to send you one and it says your email address is incorrect.

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johns48jdb

01-26-2007 20:36:06

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Re: Crater grease in reply to Michael Price, 01-26-2007 19:24:04

how about somebody clueing me in as to what it is and is it worth the effort to find to use of just every day farm equiptment. i'd love to find something real good for u joints and bearings on a jack shaft that is on my ransome mower. it turns so fast that i have to use the tacky red grease just to get it to stay in. if i mow more than a couple of hours the bearings need greasing again. thanks

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Michael Price

01-26-2007 20:41:52

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Re: Crater grease in reply to johns48jdb, 01-26-2007 20:36:06

I was told it was a thick grease good for places that you want it to last a long time and in places where dirt gets. Im fixing up a old disk and I though this would be good for the disk gangs because there getting wore out so I though this thick grease would work good. I was told it looks like oily tar. My friend said it would be good for my potato digger because its in the dirt and the dirt will berry up it the tarry stuff and wont wear it out.

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johns48jdb

01-28-2007 07:42:15

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Re: Crater grease in reply to Michael Price, 01-26-2007 20:41:52

i look at this a little different i guess. i would think the grease would stay in place better and not let dirt in, rather than mix with it and not wear something out. i don't think thats right at all. any time you get grit, sand or dirt into a lubricated place that has got to be bad. like i say i think thick grease would stay in place better and not let dirt in.

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Rick Kr

01-26-2007 19:51:34

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Re: Crater grease in reply to Michael Price, 01-26-2007 19:24:04

Mike,

Here you go.

I use the Flint store.

>Link

Flint>Link Port Huron
(800) 638-8110 (800) 834-6219
White Division Secory Division
11134 N. Saginaw Rd. 3030 Moak St.
Clio, MI 48420 Port Huron, MI 48060

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Rick Kr

01-26-2007 19:45:46

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Re: Crater grease in reply to Michael Price, 01-26-2007 19:24:04

Michael,

Are you in luck. I asked the same question and a lot of blank stares. I called an oil distribution place near my home.

It comes in caulk tubes, all the way up to 55 gallon drums. It comes in 4 "heat" ranges, from summer all the way to something like -50.

I had an old 15 ton excavator and it had the big open gear on the turret.

If you need I could call and get you the name brand, I am sure if you check with a big oil place in your town they would have it.

Funny though, I went to MichiganCAT and just got blank stares, most people there were my age or younger (37). They thought I was feeding them a line until I showed them the service manual.

Rick

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Michael Price

01-26-2007 19:58:50

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Re: Crater grease in reply to Rick Kr, 01-26-2007 19:45:46

I found a web site, and only one site that sells it and the smallest they have is 5 gal, all I need is 2 gal at most and that will leave me alot left over. A few caulk tubes would be great. I would appreciate anything you could tell me about where to find this stuff, Ive been looking for a while and like you got blank stares.

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