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beefman

01-24-2007 19:18:04




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how many bottom plow was this tractor designed for? it's 50 hp perkins engine




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Jonfarmer

01-24-2007 23:13:38




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 Re: case international 485 in reply to beefman, 01-24-2007 19:18:04  
I got a 484, which is pretty much the same tractor with the same engine, it does very well with a 2x16, but I did try a 3x16, and that was just way too much, the only plowing it did was with the tires, couldn't even begin to pull it and thats with fluid in the tires, so the answer is 2 bottoms. By the way it is not a perkins engine, it is an IH built 3 cylinder D179 diesel, and it is 50hp on the engine and 38hp on the pto. Great little tractor, and a real fuel sipper. So if you get a 2 bottom plow, you will be quite happy with it.

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MapleSprings

01-25-2007 04:00:28




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 Re: case international 485 in reply to Jonfarmer, 01-24-2007 23:13:38  
Hmmm -- my 484 manual says it"s 42.4 hp. ??

Mark



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Jonfarmer

01-25-2007 05:14:16




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 Re: case international 485 in reply to MapleSprings, 01-25-2007 04:00:28  
150yrs of IHC says 38hp, but I am willing to bet they're problably a little underrated like most everything else built though that time. It is kinda surprising how much power they do have since it dont look like much on paper. I don't have much for complaints on power, just buy impliments for the size tractor that it is and you'll be happy with it.



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RodInNS

01-26-2007 12:29:32




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 Re: case international 485 in reply to Jonfarmer, 01-25-2007 05:14:16  
Hmmm. Larry Gay, author of Farm Tractors 1975-1995, and former test engineer at nebraska says it was 43 on the PTO... or at least that's what he printed in the book, as the official test.
Again, what it'll pull is more related to what skins it's running, and what ballast it's got. IF it's got FWA, it'll handle 3x14 or probably 16's I'd suspect. 2 wheels driving, mabey not. It is a heavy little tractor for the power it's got, so it should pull.

Rod

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Jonfarmer

01-26-2007 17:03:04




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 Re: case international 485 in reply to RodInNS, 01-26-2007 12:29:32  
Mine weighs exactly 6,000lbs, I weighed it on a truck scale without a driver. The 484 didn't have 4wd availible, the 485 did, but I think most were 2wds, and since whoever asked thre question didnt say it was 4wd, I take it is problably 2wd. As far as the "official" horsepower rating is concerned, no two tractors are going to test the same, they are 20yrs old, and are considered a 40hp tractor. Yes, they are very heavy for the horsepower, and are a major PITA to get out when they get stuck. I got new bias ply tires on mine, they do ok, but you can forget 3 bottoms on a 2wd, I tried it, and as soon as those 3 bottoms start to go in the ground, it'll stop the tractor, but it is traction that it runs out of, not power. If he gets a 2 bottom, he will do extremely well and it will plow up a storm no problem in all conditions except when the soil is super wet and turned to pure mud. Yeah, he could run duals and more weights or deeper lug tires, but then he will be running out of power. My suggestion is if he wants something to pull more than 2 bottoms and it isn't 4wd, he should look at something bigger.

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RodInNS

01-26-2007 19:28:50




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 Re: case international 485 in reply to Jonfarmer, 01-26-2007 17:03:04  
Sure, 2 bottoms would be safe, and the tractor will pull that most anywhere. More would depend on the plow, the soil type, the tires and the ballast. Many things depend. I'm quite sure it could be made to pull 3. We've done it for years and years and years with a Ford 4000, easily, and with no more weight. Go to a tough field and couldn't do a thing with the same plow. Just depends on conditions....

Rod

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RodInNS

01-24-2007 21:27:13




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 Re: case international 485 in reply to beefman, 01-24-2007 19:18:04  
Unless you've got a special 485, unlike the rest that rolled of the line, it should have the International 3 cylinder D179 engine. Regardless, with that weight tractor, and the rubber it's probably got, 3x14 is probably enough plow in most circumstances. It might well take more in some places, but that would be asking a lot. Anyhow, that's my 2 cents.

Rod



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Ken Macfarlane

01-25-2007 08:13:44




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 Re: case international 485 in reply to RodInNS, 01-24-2007 21:27:13  
Our neighbours 585 handles a 2x16 quite well. Seems to me the 585 is quite a bit more machine though sharing the tranny and rear end with the 685 and another larger machine.



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RodInNS

01-26-2007 19:36:41




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 Re: case international 485 in reply to Ken Macfarlane, 01-25-2007 08:13:44  
Hey Ken

Hows things? You ever find one of those beasts you were looking for last summer? Everything going well I trust?
We're just setteliong down for a good storm tonight. Probably 6 inches down now.... Not looking forward to tomorrow. Oh well.

BTW, I know a fella fairly well down this way that has a 585 or 595 FWA and a loader, and he's pulling I think 4x16's with that little tractor. It doesn't take it fast, but has no trouble pulling it. Pretty good little tractors.

Rod

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MapleSprings

01-26-2007 16:16:25




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 Re: case international 485 in reply to Ken Macfarlane, 01-25-2007 08:13:44  
You're right, at least according -- again -- to owner's manual, which says 584/5 has 52 hp, virtually 25% more.

My 484 came set up with 18.4 X16.1 rears and short front spindles: it's the easy-to-do way to make an "orchard" tractor. It worked well for that, too. Great on the side hill.

But useless for plowing! So now I plow with a '57 W450 and 3-16 Oliver.

Mark



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Jonfarmer

01-26-2007 17:12:18




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 Re: case international 485 in reply to MapleSprings, 01-26-2007 16:16:25  
You got wider tires than I do, I got 14.9-28 on the rear and 8.00-16 on the front. We like to use ours in the woods since they'll turn so sharp you can spin them around on one wheel without using the brakes. They're not useless for plowing, just you need to stay with a 2 bottom, then they are a plowing fool.



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