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Which Pond Scoop Should I buy

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HDGib

01-22-2007 09:16:18




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I posted this somewhere else but don't know where it went. It should be here. LOL Blond moment.
I have a 42 9N. I am looking at Pond Scoops. I have seen 2 types. The King Kutter with 2 over head supports about $300. it says about 5 cubic feet. and another type with one tubular (round) over head support $230. Says about 10 cubic feet. Both are reversable with a 30" Scoop. Is one better then the other. The King Kutter looks like the pivot point stick out on the inside of the scoop. The other dosen"t look like they do. Kind of like the Howes non reversable kind. the King Kutter is easily found on line (can"t seem to post a pic) the other can be found on e-bay with a "pond scoop" search.

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R Wyler

01-23-2007 14:09:44




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 Re: Which Pond Scoop Should I buy in reply to HDGib, 01-22-2007 09:16:18  
The King Kutter is a well made implement I have a 24 inch one for my 8n and it works great. It has cut into all the soil I have had it in so far and also as said before they are great for movieing rocks bricks etc as well. The King Kutters are made in Alabama.



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IBorange in TX

01-22-2007 18:36:05




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 Re: Which Pond Scoop Should I buy in reply to HDGib, 01-22-2007 09:16:18  
I have a scoop that Ford sold back in the 60's. It will fill over 1/3 yard of sand. It can be used to dig a shallow pond, but it puts butterflies in your stomach when you are down in the hole and then crawling out w/a scoop of sand behind you. Weights on the front of the tractor is a must. That is when I reverse the scoop and back out of the hole. Can be very dangerous, just watch what you are doing. Which one would I buy,I think I have just told you above, buy the reversable or you are looking at possible problems in the future. The reversable is fine for moving rocks, bricks,etc. Just back up and dumb the load. For the pond digging, I went to using a box blade. Be careful.....
Good Luck..... .

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hdgib

01-22-2007 15:04:35




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 Re: Which Pond Scoop Should I buy in reply to HDGib, 01-22-2007 09:16:18  
Thank you for such an educated response. I am going to move dirt and crush stone maybe do a little digging use to move things around. I really don't see the point in needing to know what sort of scooping I am going to do. I was just trying to find out of the 2 types I have found which is the best. I could be wrong but wouldn't they both do the same job? For the $70 difference is the double over head support that much stronger and hold up better then the single tube over head? Or Maybe the Tube type would have more strength which is why they only use one support. Does the double one stick out farther or have more torque then the single tube with it being in the center? Would one type dig deeper then the other? I have found out the Tube type is manufactured by Wallburg Farm Equipment in NC. Not sure where the King Kutter is made.

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8N'r

01-22-2007 15:20:46




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 Re: Which Pond Scoop Should I buy in reply to hdgib, 01-22-2007 15:04:35  
HD---I am glad you responded back. I have used the 30" King Kutter "Dirt Scoop" on the back of an N tractor for moving loose dirt and gravel piles for small jobs. It works great for that. I have also dug ponds before. In my opinion, if I had used my 8N with the KK 30" dirt scoop to move 4300 cubic yards of ground, I would still be scratching the surface area trying to keep the grass from growing where I had just removed it. I am not familiar with the Wallburg model, so I can't comment on that. For what you said you want to use the dirt scoop for, the KK 30" dirt scoop reversible will work just fine-KK doesn't make a pond scoop--Tim

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MLD

01-22-2007 13:19:29




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 Re: Which Pond Scoop Should I buy in reply to HDGib, 01-22-2007 09:16:18  
Use it for????? My guess would be a "pond scoop"??? Maybe buy a chainsaw to cut ice cream cake!!



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8N'r

01-22-2007 12:25:33




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 Re: Which Pond Scoop Should I buy in reply to HDGib, 01-22-2007 09:16:18  
What are you planning to use it for?



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hdgib

01-23-2007 16:32:24




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 Re: Which Pond Scoop Should I buy in reply to 8N'r, 01-22-2007 12:25:33  
Thanks for all your help and advice. I ended up getting one at Farmers Co-op. They had 2 at my store. Both were different then I had seen before. They had double overhead round tubes. Even between the two, one was noticeably made better, with a thicker steel scoop. The pivot point was part of the side iron. The top center and rear cross members they used "C" iron. The other used "L" iron and the pivot point was welded on. Both were 30 inch reversible. They were both posted $209. I talked them down and bought the better one for $165. + tax. It was even manufactured in the USA right here in TN. Thanks again for all your advice. I will heed your warnings to be careful. I will be filling in around a culvert for my driveway. I will be leveling a building spot for my �by hand� off the land Log Home. Maybe if I can, digging a septic drain field. I may redirect some rain run off and may even put in a VERY small pond. Like 10' x 20'. I am sure I will have lots of fun. All I need to figure out now is how to get the 100 logs down the hillside. It is far too steep to use the tractor. I am trying to design a winch to hook to the PTO using a transmission and axel from a small rear wheel drive vehicle. Wish me luck.

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John (MO)

01-24-2007 06:17:40




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 Re: Which Pond Scoop Should I buy in reply to hdgib, 01-23-2007 16:32:24  
If you are going to try and do all that with a 9N Ford and a rear scoop, you are far more ambitious than I. Good luck



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johns48jdb

01-23-2007 19:51:30




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 Re: Which Pond Scoop Should I buy in reply to hdgib, 01-23-2007 16:32:24  
better check with your health department about digging a septic line. if you live in the county that i do you have to have your septic tank inspected by the health department and it has to be installed by a licensed installer before you can get electricity turned on to your pad. i doubt that the scoop would go deep enough down in the ground to do that unless you made it real wide. if you make it that wide it will take a bunch of gravel to fill it up.

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hdgib

01-24-2007 20:25:47




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 Re: Which Pond Scoop Should I buy in reply to johns48jdb, 01-23-2007 19:51:30  
Thanks for the advice. I will be building out in the sticks of eastern KY. I need to have a perk test and septic design approved in order to get the electricty brought to my site. I read somewhere that someone was able to dig an 18" septic trench with a dirt scoop. I don't know how wide he had to make it. I never thought I would be able to do that. If I can it would be a major bonus. I know I will not be able to dig deep enough for the chamber. I am still in the planning stages and have to get the area cleaned up to see where would be best to do all this. The cleaning up will be the main use and if I can do more I will jump for joy.

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