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Disc-axel-bearing sets

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Scott ABC

01-14-2007 15:23:39




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After years of buying "store bought" accessories my uncle and myself are in the process of making our own box frame disc-harrow (16 disc). Looking for dealers for the disc/axel/bearings. Anybody have any suggestions on dealers, stores, etc.? Will be pulled by a 8N & 9N. Located in south central Louisiana, but will take any info. Thanks!




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Gerald J.

01-17-2007 13:25:01




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 Re: Disc-axel-bearing sets in reply to Scott ABC, 01-14-2007 15:23:39  
I started with an Oliver 232 12' disk. I dropped off the four sections of disk. Then I picked out the two west and with the help of a couple lenghts of 4" wide flange I beam under the frame mounted them as an offset disk. With the good frame for the 12' disk it has enough weight to go in the ground. Something three point disks sold for the Ford 9/8 N haven't got. But then there's not that much pull available either. I'd shoot for 4' wide for the 8N. My offset disk pulled my MF-135 (more than twice the tractor of an 8N in about the same size package) like a 2x 16s molboard plow going 10" deep.

For parts look at Shoup, www.shoupparts.com, though most farm stores carry some disk bearings and disks.

As said down below, its a whole lot easier to weld up a new head on the gang bolt than to cut new threads, though Shoup will be happy to sell you any number of gang bolts in any length you want.

Lot of the old bushings were wood, probably maple or oak, oil soaked, they run a long time. Most modern disks use square shafts so the bearings have square holes in the ball and tapered roller bearings.

Gerald J.

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Scott ABC

01-15-2007 16:51:01




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 Re: Disc-axel-bearing sets in reply to Scott ABC, 01-14-2007 15:23:39  
Hugh, Tom,

Thanks for the tips - didn't even cross our mind to resize a disc.



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Hugh MacKay

01-15-2007 03:04:52




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 Re: Disc-axel-bearing sets in reply to Scott ABC, 01-14-2007 15:23:39  
Scott: One of the least expensive ways to get a 16 or 20 blade disk is cut a large disk down. I've had a bit of experience with this. I helped a guy with a 44 blade trailer disk that had 4 bearings per gang. First he built a 24 blade trailer disk, and since he had 4 bearings per gang from the original disk, that gave him enough material to build a 20 blade, 3 point hitch disk. Each of his disks will have 2 bearings per gang. He bought that 44 blade disk for $100. All he added to that in cost was his own welding and labor. I haven't talked with him recently, thus I'm not sure he ever built the 20, 3 point hitch disk. He was trying to decide whether to build a second one for sale or have his own parts dept.

If you set out to buy new blades, spacers, bearings, arbor bolts, and scrapers, your going to put one heck of a dent in $800. and you will not have the quality of material going into big disks. To get that kind of quality and as heavy duty parts as in the big disk, you will probaby increase your cost to $1,200. One of the items that make big disks cut so well is the added weight of those heavy duty parts.

I have an example of my own going on right now. I have a 16 blade factory disk that came with my Farmall 140, 7/8" arbor bolt and 15" disks, when new. I looked at putting on new blades, and the original 15" from CaseIH were $52. each. I can buy aftermarket light gauge 16" for $20.or heavy guage for $32. each. Then the question is, will the light arbor, bearing and frame stand up to the larger blade. I can already see places on my disk where frame is bending by side draft disk blades create.

I've since bought a 24 blade MF 3 point hitch disk, 18" blades with 1-1/8" arbor bolts. I've pulled it a bit with my 140, but it's really too much load. I can very easily take one blade off each gang, cut and rethread the arbor bolts, and have a 20 blade. I don't have a $100. invested in this MF disk yet. It does have excellent blades and bearings.

There is another little tip I'll give you about disks. If your going to do a lot of disking like 200 hours per year go modern sealed bearings all the way. If you going to do 30 hours or less go with the old type greasable bushing type bearings. they stand up much better when the use is not great. I farmed and had 20' disk with 20" blades and sealed bearings. Now that I'm retired it's old type bearings all the way. I only do a garden now. The problem with sealed bearing if parked long periods, less than perfect seals let water in, and water creates rust. The old bushing type bearing stand up to rust and corosion much better. They don't stand up near as well as sealed bearings on long hours of use.

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TomTX

01-15-2007 15:25:57




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 Re: Disc-axel-bearing sets in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-15-2007 03:04:52  
Hugh, I agree with re-sizing a larger disk to get what you want. BTDT One suggestion that will save labor/money. If the threaded end of the axle is good, then just start the nut, shove everything tight as possible and cut the other end off, slide a hub over the end and weld. Works much better than re-cutting the threaded end. Tom



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