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Bill in NorthCe

01-08-2007 17:30:48




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I am looking for a good set of two or three bottom three point hitch plows. My problem is that not only don't I really know what to look for, I don't know the vocabulary either. Any tips to look for?

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Bill




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RodInNS

01-09-2007 09:23:37




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 Re: Good plows? in reply to Bill in NorthCentral PA, 01-08-2007 17:30:48  
I can't really tell you what's available in terms of parts for the older American made plows. I can tell you that over the years we've had Ferguson Sherman, David Brown, and Kverneland plows. They were all good plows, but the new Kverneland is by far the best as it simply does an excellent job of clearing trash, which the other old ones don't.... but that may not be a factor to you. What I can also tell you is that of the whole bunch, the only one we can get parts for today is the Kverneland. The Brown's are about to be cut, and the Ferguson is being kept for nostalgia and nothing else. Again, I can't really comment on what the old Ford plows are like, or their parts availability. Likewise for Deere or IH. However, knowing what I know about Case NewHolland, I'd think that support would be wearing thin on all the Ford/Case/IH lines of plows. They dropped support for Brown many years ago. Plowing's not what it used to be....
So, that leaves a person looking to Europe for a moldboard plow. That's where plowing is done today. For simplicity I think Kverneland still has the basic model MZ mounted plow with either rigid or coil spring trips. If you want high end, then a model AB or AD is the way to go with variable width and leaf spring automatic resets. Both of those plows will work at over 4mph in just about any kind of conditions. There's other manufacturers including Kuhn who are building plows, but I can't tell you much about them. Really, if I wanted a plow today, I'd be looking towards somebody who's still actually building them....

Rod

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richard in nz

01-10-2007 00:18:23




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 Re: Good plows? in reply to RodInNS, 01-09-2007 09:23:37  
There is a guy called Geoff Wolfenden posting over on the Case board wanting DB tractors for his collection. DB ploughs make good money in England especially in Yorkshire, they might be better stuck in a container with some tractors rather than being cut up for scrap, sent to China and then sent back as tractors!



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TomTX

01-09-2007 06:33:12




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 Re: Good plows? in reply to Bill in NorthCentral PA, 01-08-2007 17:30:48  
Ford 101
MF 74
I personnaly like the MF Model 74 shear pin plow. It came with auto trips or shear pins, and from 2 bottoms up, in 12 14 16 18 inch plows.
Tom



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MF Poor

01-09-2007 08:08:02




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 Re: Good plows? in reply to TomTX, 01-09-2007 06:33:12  
#66 and #74 Massey plows are almost alike. #66 came in 2 or 3 bottom, 12", 14", and 16". The #74 was 3, 4 , or 5 bottom, mostly CAT II hitch, available in 10", 12", 14", and 16" bottoms.(Looking through 1972 Massey Ferguson "Machinery Digest" at the moment)



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MF Poor

01-09-2007 04:06:53




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 Re: Good plows? in reply to Bill in NorthCentral PA, 01-08-2007 17:30:48  
Back in the day, there were lots of good choices. Today things are a little different. Parts availability is getting very limited on some brands or models. The ones that still offer parts would go to the head of the class in my opinion.

I like Ford 101's or Massey Ferguson #66 or #43's. The Ford 101 is without a doubt, one of the best plows ever built. Parts are abundant. (ALMOST a no-brainer.) Oliver (White) used to make the best plow in the business. Not sure how parts are for them. (Oliver/White built plows for FORD under contract. Could account for why the 101 is such a good plow) I hear lots of folks bragging on Case plows too. Watch IH plows, parts for SOME models are extinct. Good plows otherwise. Deere plows have always pulled harder than any other brand. And they DON'T do any better job for all the effort.

If you have a chance of rocks or roots, TRIP BEAMS are best. (Saftey trip over shear bolts) Some people take off the coulters. I wouldn't have a plow without. (JMHO)

Unless you just know everything, look through an owners manual to whatever plow you pick. (You can find 'em on ebay) There's always a set-up tip or 2 that makes the reading worthwhile.

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MF Poor

01-09-2007 04:05:13




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 Re: Good plows? in reply to Bill in NorthCentral PA, 01-08-2007 17:30:48  
Back in the day, there were lots of good choices. Today things are a little different. Parts availability is getting very limited on some brands or models. The ones that still offer parts would go to the head of the class in my opinion.

I like Ford 101's or Massey Ferguson #66 or #43's. The Ford 101 is without a doubt, one of the best plows ever built. Parts are abundant. (ALMOST a no-brainer.) Oliver (White) used to make the best plow in the business. Not sure how parts are for them. (Oliver/White built plows for FORD under contract. Could account for why the 101 is such a good plow) I hear lots of folks bragging on Case plows too. Watch IH plows, parts for SOME models are extinct. Good plows otherwise. Deere plows have always pulled harder than any other brand. And they DON'T do any better job for all the effort.

If you have a chance of rocks or roots, TRIP BEAMS are best. (Saftey trip over shear bolts) Some people take off the coulters. I wouldn't have a plow without. (JMHO)

Unless you just know everything, look through an owners manual to whatever plow you pick. (You can find 'em on ebay) There's always a set-up tip or 2 that makes the reading worthwhile.

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msb

01-08-2007 21:56:00




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 Re: Good plows? in reply to Bill in NorthCentral PA, 01-08-2007 17:30:48  
Ford model 101 is probably as good as there is according to guys around here.F125 Deere would also be another good one.



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Michael Price

01-08-2007 19:42:46




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 Re: Good plows? in reply to Bill in NorthCentral PA, 01-08-2007 17:30:48  
Do you want new or used plows? If your looking for a old plow I still havnt seen a torn up one. My dad has a old 2 bottom and this thing has been used and abused for 50 or more years and probably has another 300 years left in it. I would be worried about new china junk.



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Bill in NorthCentral Pa

01-10-2007 07:49:52




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 Re: Good plows? in reply to Michael Price, 01-08-2007 19:42:46  
Thanks for the advice. How about shares, shins, etc. How do I know if they are usable or not?

Thanks Again,

Bill



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