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JR in TX

12-28-2006 13:26:22




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I am thinking about buying a used NH664 baler from a local dealer and wanted to get some opinions. I have been square baling for awhile, but now I want move up to a round baler. I have never operated one before, so I wanted to see if anyone had much experiance with this baler. The machine has had less than 1,000 bales through it. The paint is not even worn off on the pickup or chains. What is a baler like this worth in like new condition. The dealer is 15 miles away so parts would be convienant, no hesston or vermeer places out here.

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R. John Johnson

12-28-2006 23:05:56




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 Re: NH 664 baler in reply to JR in TX, 12-28-2006 13:26:22  
JR

I've got a 664. GREAT baler! The basic design was introduced on the 660 and if you look under the shields on a BR780 it looks the same. Is the one you are looking at autowrap or bale command? You will need a minimum 85 HP tractor to run it.

If you are switching form small squares and going up to big rounds, you will also need to re-think how you will transport, handle and feed the bales. If you already have a loader great. Get a 3 point bale fork. Thats the best way to move individual bales. let us know how it works out.

John

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JR in TX

12-29-2006 06:04:48




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 Re: NH 664 baler in reply to R. John Johnson, 12-28-2006 23:05:56  
It has auto-wrap, is that good? I plan to hook it to a jd 4020 with a loader. Here most people like a 5x6 bale,but some people have tractors that can't pick them up. So I've seen 5x5 or 5x4 bales made from a 5x6 baler.



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R. John Johnson

12-29-2006 06:55:02




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 Re: NH 664 baler in reply to JR in TX, 12-29-2006 06:04:48  
JR

Sounds like you are pretty much there for equipment. I bale with a JD 4230 or a 4010. The 4010 has enough HP for the job, but it knows something is back there, unlike when it ran the old Vermeer balers. Get a three point fork and either a fork for the loader or a grapple for the bucket.

IMHO the Autowrap is the better of the two options. No fancy electronics to worry about. You will have to hook up a buzzer to the tractor, if it's 24 volt, there is a diagram in the manual that shows how it should be installed.

When tying a bale with autowrap there are a couple of things to watch out for. When the buzzer goes off to signal that the baler is tying, stop right away. I sometimes bale huge windrows of slough hay cut with a sickle bar mower and raked with a wheel rake(if I can get it under the front axle, I can bale it). The twine arms are equipped with a breakaway feature and too much hay will cause it to breakaway and wrap twine in only the center of the bale. When tying check the indicator on the baler to see that the twine arms are moving and have not broke away. Also look at each side to make sure the twine is feeding. Sometimes a new spool of sisal will stick and not feed so only one side of the bale gets tied. When the tie gets to the end of the cycle, make sure the twine stops feeding. eject the bale and start again. The autowrap doesn't screw up often, but watch these twine things, because sometimes it does.

If you have any questions, email me.

John

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kyhayman

12-28-2006 18:29:56




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 Re: NH 664 baler in reply to JR in TX, 12-28-2006 13:26:22  
$15,000 give or take to your local market. Around here, 2000 or more less as nobody wants the wider roll. Here the 4' wides rule, as hay spends a lot of time on the road. Where I got my 650, 100 miles west they cant give the 4' wide ones away, everyone wants the biggest roll possible



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Tx Jim

12-29-2006 03:52:00




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 Re: NH 664 baler in reply to kyhayman, 12-28-2006 18:29:56  
Kyhayman,what you said about can't give away a 4' wide baler 100 miles from you is true in next county from me. Mostly 4's sold here mostly 5's there and it's only 30 miles apart. Tx Jim



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Joe(TX)

12-30-2006 18:43:40




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 Re: NH 664 baler in reply to Tx Jim, 12-29-2006 03:52:00  
Tx Jim
It's a similar situation where I live.
Most people can't handle 5' bales.
If I only baled for myself, I would use a 5' baler.
I can get the same money for a 4' wide bale as I can for a 5' wide one. People around here have not figured out per ton pricing.
You bale what the customer wants.



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