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Do I need inertubes?

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Michael Price

12-20-2006 11:50:17




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I have a small transport disk and it has spoked wheels and it has a one peice rim and hub. I need to replace the tires on it and was wondering if I can go tubeless or is tubes better? Also can you go tubless on these rims?




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David Snipes

12-26-2006 10:32:49




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 Re: Do I need inertubes? in reply to Michael Price, 12-20-2006 11:50:17  
The mobile home tire folks are correct. They are the .5" designation ie. 14.5 or 16.5. Those tires have a different bead profile and a matching wheel is reguired. A standard wheel made for tubeless tires will have a small ridge just inside the rim to help hold the tire bead on the rim. Without that, they are more prone to leak. On the flip side, I bought an old Versatile 400 swather and it came with a 24.5 truck tire on the 24" wheel. The tire was retreaded with tractor lugs. It has a tube in it and has held air for several years now. For my own farm use, I would probably put a 14.5 tire on a 14" wheel as long as I used a tube. You would have to do it yourself, a tire shop would refuse to do it due to liability reasons.

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Jason Mortzheim

12-25-2006 18:20:32




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 Re: Do I need inertubes? in reply to Michael Price, 12-20-2006 11:50:17  
For moble home tires try your local auctions. Around my place they always have a few as many folks use them to make construction equipment trailers. But a word of caution from my tire place when they put a tube in one of mine (they come originally as tubeless but due to a slow leak I had a tube installed), they are made for short use only basically to get the house from the factory to the site and tend to wear out quickly and blow out. You can buy 'real' replacements but they are pricy at $140 per tire about the same price as the load range E for my Ford SuperDuty. I did see a pair at about half that on eBay. Brand new from a regular seller but not sure if he/she is stil listing.

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Don-Wi

12-22-2006 08:56:38




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 Re: Do I need inertubes? in reply to Michael Price, 12-20-2006 11:50:17  
I'm with the others, gotta put tubes in. Just use a regualar truck tire, it'll be fine. A disk isn't the heaviest thing in the world and we use car/truck tires under our haywagons which will have up to 5-6 or so tons on them. They hold up fine.

With a spoked rim, I don't think you could go tubeless anyway.

Donovan from Wisconsin



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Michael Price

12-20-2006 19:11:02




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 Re: Do I need inertubes? in reply to Michael Price, 12-20-2006 11:50:17  
What size are mobile home tires? They would be heavy duty, I have no idea where to get them though.



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Brian in MO

12-20-2006 19:56:13




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 Re: Do I need inertubes? in reply to Michael Price, 12-20-2006 19:11:02  
Micheal, mobile home tires are 14.5" and as far as I know mobile home rims are the only thing they fit. Around here over the years there have been a lot of home made trailors that use them and they are always flat when you want to use them and will blow out if ran below about 100 lbs of presure. I'm not sure if they would be much better than car tires.



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Brian in MO

12-20-2006 19:51:21




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 Re: Do I need inertubes? in reply to Michael Price, 12-20-2006 19:11:02  
Micheal, mobile home tires are 14.5" and as far as I know mobile home rims are the only thing they fit. Around here over the years there have been a lot of home made trailors that use them and they are always flat when you want to use them and will blow out if ran below about 100 lbs of presure. I'm not sure if they would be much better than car tires.



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jwal10

12-20-2006 18:04:53




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 Re: Do I need inertubes? in reply to Michael Price, 12-20-2006 11:50:17  
Also if a tube is used and tire gets real low you can still air it up.If no tube it may break the bead and most times it won't reseat without removing tire, cleaning bead and remounting.Plus some times if using heavier tires, 6-8 ply it can be real hard to get air in fast enough to seal bead because the bead is deformed when tire sat flat for an extended period.You can always air up a tire with tube and move equipment or even use it for a while till it can be fixed right.

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paul

12-20-2006 17:42:58




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 Re: Do I need inertubes? in reply to Michael Price, 12-20-2006 11:50:17  
I put tubes in most everything on the farm. You'll have leaks 78% of the time if you don't.

Cheaper to go with good used tires (saves you the $5 disposal if yours, only $5 or so from the tire shop if you need to buy) and tubes. Cheaper than buying a new tire & trying to get by without a tube.

--->Paul



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old

12-20-2006 13:02:13




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 Re: Do I need inertubes? in reply to Michael Price, 12-20-2006 11:50:17  
99% of tractor and implantment rims are made for tube type tires and NEED to have tubes in them or you can have other problems which include looseing your head because of a blow out. So yes you NEED tubes in them. Not only becuase they where made to have them but because of safty



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