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pjbrown

12-18-2006 16:16:46




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Is a rotary rake the only way to go???




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Bill in Colo

12-19-2006 20:22:02




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 Re: rotary rake in reply to pjbrown, 12-18-2006 16:16:46  
rotary rakes do a great job. however most people i know trade them off after about 3500 acres. they work best on hay that is about 3 tons per acre. I have a New Holland {about 20 years old and 5000 acres}it costs about $3 per acre to keep it going, I would expect kuhn's to cost about the same over time. I,m currently looking for a good r 23 twin rake.



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Cliff Neubauer

12-20-2006 11:37:14




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 Re: rotary rake in reply to Bill in Colo, 12-19-2006 20:22:02  
Our Kuhn rotary rake only has a couple hundred acres on it so I can't speak for it's long term maintance but it is built about three times as heavy as the older models so I don't see there being too much maintance to keep it going. We've got a JD 700 twin rake which is an R-23 painted green and it does a very good job but in our climate the hay has to be almost dry before you can rake it with the twin rake.

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Cliff Neubauer

12-19-2006 05:34:23




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 Re: rotary rake in reply to pjbrown, 12-18-2006 16:16:46  
This summer we demo'd a Kuhn rotary rake and we liked it enough to buy it. We used to run wheel rakes but we didn't like how they put dirt in the hay and left hay on the ground so we switched to bar rakes. We liked how clean the bar rakes rake but didn't like how much they roped the hay and we feel that the rotary rake rakes as clean (or cleaner) than a good bar rake and leaves a windrow nicer than a wheel rake. Time will tell but I don't think our Kuhn will have any more maintance than a bar rake and the hydrualic lift is very nice. We've still got a 6 wheel inline rake and we will keep our IH #35 and JD 700 twin rake around for now but for '08 the twin rake might get traded for a twin rotor rotary rake.

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jwal10

12-18-2006 21:19:07




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 Re: rotary rake in reply to pjbrown, 12-18-2006 16:16:46  
Hi, Wheel rakes are much cheaper to maintain,they also don't make the rope,so hay dries more even. If your rake is as one person says [is a dirt slinger] it may need new springs or wheels may be out of balance. A wheel rakes teeth should never be in the dirt as it only takes the hay to turn them.



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RickL

12-19-2006 23:15:55




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 Re: rotary rake in reply to jwal10, 12-18-2006 21:19:07  
Will agree with you,wheel rake need to be set correctly and they will leave a field virtually spotless. If they are dirt slinger the are not set correctly and you may still have the style that has the small teeth on the outside of the wheels versus the one that have tines from center out. Put svereal of these units together each season,have heard it all. I also would agree the rotary rake works better if you have tedded it. I won't touch that topic thou,been ther done that. Only once!!! Like I have always looke d at things if it works for you then thats all that MATTERS anyway no matter what the stories are . Happy Holidays

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Doug in IL

12-18-2006 18:21:49




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 Re: rotary rake in reply to pjbrown, 12-18-2006 16:16:46  
In my experience, yes, they are the only way to go. After you have used one awhile, you will be very reluctant to go back to a rope maker(bar rake) or a dirt slinger(wheel rake). I do think the rotary is more expensive to maintain. But the hay quality will be better with a rotary. And the hay will dry faster also.



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e

12-18-2006 18:07:48




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 Re: rotary rake in reply to pjbrown, 12-18-2006 16:16:46  
In my opinion, no. I had a miller pro 1100 and trade it off on a good ol' NH 258. The rotary's don't flip the hay over as well as the old rope makers.....they just pad it together. When I started doing more looking around, I found that typically in europe a rotary rake is used with a tedder. This would explain why I couldn't get the green lumps out of the hay.



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Seth_ia

12-18-2006 17:06:59




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 Re: rotary rake in reply to pjbrown, 12-18-2006 16:16:46  
I'm definately a little leary of them, but I'd like to have one demoed anyway. However there are no dealers near that handle them. I have been told they are not good on uneven feild and that you should buy new because used are likely shot. I have also talked to a dealer in WI that says about all he sells is rotaries. So it all depends on who you listen to.



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RickL

12-18-2006 16:23:38




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 Re: rotary rake in reply to pjbrown, 12-18-2006 16:16:46  
thats loaded question,like ford or dodge. To me no to much maintance. I like the wheel rakes.



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