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New HOlland 853 baler repair

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Ken Pawluk

12-16-2006 15:33:55




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I have a problem with the main drive bale forming chain contacting the rubber stripper roler in one spot. Even with the stripper clearance set .025 greater than the recomended maximum .250. All the bearings are solid. There is no movement on any of the shafts to indicate any thing loose. I have removed the right hand clutch assembly that free wheels when the baler reverses. Its almost like the baler forming chain round spreader bars are too fat. But they measure all within .010 of the others. ANY IDEAS? Any suggestions are appreciated.

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LBSMJS

12-17-2006 19:05:31




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 Re: New HOlland 853 baler repair in reply to Ken Pawluk, 12-16-2006 15:33:55  
Your chain is worn out.The notches on your main shaft is so far apart.When the chain wears the bars get farther apart and start hitting the edge like they are out of time. my nieghbor had the same problem and that is what had to be done.While you have the main shaft out you had better replace the main sprockets on each side or the chain will jump while running and wear faster.



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Allan In NE

12-17-2006 02:52:51




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 Re: New HOlland 853 baler repair in reply to Ken Pawluk, 12-16-2006 15:33:55  
Dunno,

Never owned one, but just some things to check: Are the bars straight?

Only with an empty chamber/has the chain stretched and needs one bar removed to keep tension when empty?

How about a leaking air bag? Is the rubber coming loose on the stripper? Are you using enough air pressure?

Are the bushings okay in the air bag guides?

Has the chain jumped time on one side? Are the bar attaching bolts installed backwards?

There's gotta be a reason there somewhere. Let us know what you find.

Allan

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Ken Pawluk

12-17-2006 17:38:24




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 Re: New HOlland 853 baler repair in reply to Allan In NE, 12-17-2006 02:52:51  
I cannot see any malformation in the bars, nor can I detect that one side has jumped a cog and is out of time. The airbags hold pressure. I have tried the machine empty with 30 to 50 PSI and there is no difference. The rubber is coming loose from the stripper, or actually is gone in a few spots that lines up with chain. None of the fasteners are in backwards. The bushings in the air bag guides is a new one that I will check. Today I removed the main bearings on both sides and am going to replace them since they were a little noisy. Nothing that would allow any shaft movement though. I am going to the dealer for parts on Tuesday, so I will pick their brain a little. One thing I could try is to switch a few bars in the bad area with some from where there is no problem and see what difference that makes. I still am baffled. Thanks for the inquiry and suggestions.

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Allan In NE

12-18-2006 04:26:29




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 Re: New HOlland 853 baler repair in reply to Ken Pawluk, 12-17-2006 17:38:24  
Ken,

I agree with LBS.

If it is only happening only in "certain areas", you've got a chain problem, not a "machine problem. I'd look very, very closely at that chain, those drive sprokets and all the idler rollers.

Now, it sounds to me like you are getting this symptom with no hay in the machine? Gotta remember that the chain will normally stretch with use. No big deal, the air bags will compensate for the lengthening of the chain.

However, over time it will loosen to the point that it is just "too loose" when empty and the air bags just cannot take up all that slack.

At this point, you've either got to replace that chain or take out a bar/links to shorten it.

Take heed tho, while removing a bar will certainly give you a little more life out of that chain, you don't want to take the chance of it coming apart while in operation.

When that chain decides to exit the machine on it's own, it isn't pretty. It usually takes everything in it's way with it, including the adjoing sheet metal, door hinges, axles, etc., etc.

Keep at it; you'll get 'er.

Allan

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