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how to plant after trees are gone

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Greg Lasher

12-15-2006 11:55:47




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This might be common sense to some of you but I was wondering what the best plan of attack would be to plant grass on my once tree infested land. I moved to 5 acres of wooded property in southern NJ that was filled with pine and oak trees. I took most of them out with a backhoe and now have ruts and holes all over the place. Should I plow, disk and plant? What would be the best plow that would not hook to hard on the remaining roots? I have a 600 ford, a 706 IH and a Farmall C. I need to go buy a plow and disk. I could get a two way plow for the C easily if needed. Should I also invest in a cultipacker? I'm also wondering what the best type of grass would be - I just want to cover up the dirt and don't care how often I have to mow it. I'd even plant hay or orchard grass if you thought it would be good.

Your thoughts?

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James Howell

12-15-2006 13:55:11




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 Re: how to plant after trees are gone in reply to Greg Lasher, 12-15-2006 11:55:47  
I cut the pine and hardwood trees at ground level. Chain on saw gets "gritty" with sand and dirt, but better than dodging stumps.

The pine stumps which have one long tap root will rot within a couple of years and turn to "mush". The hardwood will sprout from the stump. Use REMEDY to kill the stump. It cost about $100 a gallon at TSC, but better than dodging stumps. These "dead" stumps can be uprooted after about two years with a chisel plow.

If you can not wait a couple of years, then the CAT is the way to go. May be expensive, but better than dodging stumps.

You can use a chisel plow to tear up the "live" roots near the top of the ground. Clean out the roots and "plow" again with a disk harrow.

Agree with OLD on getting a soil sample. Not very expensive and you will save alot by using correct fertilizer for your soil. Check with your local county ag agent about both fertilizer and native grass for your area.

Planting some types of grass seed requires more work. Bermuda grass is the natural favorite here in NE Texas. I usually burn brush piles where I want the best Bermuda grass to grow.

I have Coastal Bermuda and Cheyenne in my hay meadow. Coastal must be sprigged, but Cheyenne can be broadcast and packed.

My Brillion cultipacker is used to "prepare" the seed bed. I disc harrow first then use the cultipacker to break up the sand dirt clods and smooth the ground.

I use a Herd broadcast spreader then use the cultipacker again to "pack" the Cheyenne grass seed in the sand.

Then PRAY hard for rain!

Good luck with your land.

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Allan In NE

12-15-2006 13:17:14




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 Re: how to plant after trees are gone in reply to Greg Lasher, 12-15-2006 11:55:47  
I'm serious as a heart attack here.

I would hire a D8 Cat with a ripper and have 'im rip the whole she-bang 3 foot deep.

If you don't, you'll be fighting those roots for the next 40 years.

Allan



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RustyFarmall

12-15-2006 14:13:55




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 Re: how to plant after trees are gone in reply to Allan In NE, 12-15-2006 13:17:14  
Yep, and those tree roots can break plow points, break disc blades, and could possibly puncture a tire.



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Allan In NE

12-15-2006 15:50:46




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 Re: how to plant after trees are gone in reply to RustyFarmall, 12-15-2006 14:13:55  
And, it takes 50 years for 'em to rot away. :>(

Allan



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RN

12-15-2006 13:10:14




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 Re: how to plant after trees are gone in reply to Greg Lasher, 12-15-2006 11:55:47  
See if you can find a disk blade plow- it won't catch on roots. Shep-Florida posted pictures of on he uses with a Oliver 55- used for former pine tree patch. Otherwise- 8/10 foot disk with 22 inch blades pulled by 706? Or tight fences around area and 6 pigs to root up ground and fertilise, then small disc/drag next year before planting. RN



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qa_farmer

12-15-2006 13:04:52




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 Re: how to plant after trees are gone in reply to Greg Lasher, 12-15-2006 11:55:47  
The soil in south jersey is very sandy unless you are in the jamesburg or hightstown area. Even thought it is the garden state, get your soil tested and then go to tth local AG Agent for advice.
While Plowing may be OK a few passes with a good set of Disk with a good drag should turn and level the area out. Heck with 3 tractors for only 5 acres are you sure you want to plant grass or r u lookin to harvest some hay for animals or a veggie garden. Maybe all u want to do is mow the lawn. Look to next year and figure what you want to do with the land.

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old

12-15-2006 12:16:32




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 Re: how to plant after trees are gone in reply to Greg Lasher, 12-15-2006 11:55:47  
I would plow disc, and also have a soil test done. Most of the time if you had pine and oak the soil will be very acid and grass will not grow well if it is acid



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Greg Lasher

12-15-2006 11:57:50




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 Re: how to plant after trees are gone in reply to Greg Lasher, 12-15-2006 11:55:47  
I posted the wrong e mail address -- please rely to this one not the one before. -- sorry



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