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Errin OH

12-11-2006 08:14:57

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A friend of mine has an old Ford skid steer that he needs to move rounds with. We (as in I) looked for a spear for it to no avail. Not wanting to spend a ton-o-money on adaptors and such I built one for him. The frame and mounts turned out excellent and worked great. But I have a problem with the spear. The axel shaft I use apparently got soft where it was welded to the frame. In short we bent it within three or four bales. I was looking at spears on line and had a question.

The bales are 5 foot deep, 800-1000 lbs what is a proper length for the spear? That might have been part of my issue with the home made version (52")

The spears I have seen are tapered fit to a collar with a locking nut. Does this help with the stress factor at the connection or do I want something else? (I had 1 1/2" straight)

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marlowe

12-12-2006 16:22:05

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Re: Bale Spears in reply to Errin OH, 12-11-2006 08:14:57

use a truck axle that has the bolt flange on it and bolt it on no welding

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barnrat

12-12-2006 07:04:07

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Re: Bale Spears in reply to Errin OH, 12-11-2006 08:14:57

I have a number of homemade bale spears both 3 point and loader mounted. I've alway built the frames and for around 40 bucks I can buy a hardend bale spear with weldable sleave from Agri-Supply Company.

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souNdguy

12-12-2006 06:42:30

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Re: Bale Spears in reply to Errin OH, 12-11-2006 08:14:57

My KK? bale spear is actually short.. say.. 3' long. Has a piece of 1/2" gusset welded to a taper from the rear to about 8" up the shaft.

Has got 2 other pointy angled spears at bottom corners to stabilize the bale... never has bent..

Soundguy

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Glen in TX

12-11-2006 22:15:49

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Re: Bale Spears in reply to Errin OH, 12-11-2006 08:14:57

I've built some with one spear in middle using 2 or 2 1/2" hex drill stem about 4 ft. long. You won't bend it. Put it through a piece of 4"x12" rectangular tubing with heavy flange plates welded on each side. I pointed a piece of 2" pipe on end welding it on with stainless rod. Then used some pump shafting for two short stabilizer spears on bottom of rectangular tubing. Used heavy 6" angle and flat iron on ends for mounts for pins to loader quick hitch. Built a short jib hook to slide over it and pin it from heavy pipe and plate for lifting too.

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BCnT

12-11-2006 15:22:02

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Re: Bale Spears in reply to Errin OH, 12-11-2006 08:14:57

if you wanna try making one again i use ford 3/4 ton rear axles for spears...weld a piece of plate to frame and drill holes to match lug studs and bolt it up...i've moved many 1800#+ bales with it and it dont even droop

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cannonball

12-11-2006 15:06:29

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Re: Bale Spears in reply to Errin OH, 12-11-2006 08:14:57

we use 2 spears on our tractors, the last one i made used cold roll 2 inch, they started out 5 ft had points put on them, put them in 4 inch sq tubing.. have three loaders here that use 2 spear forks, we move 5x6 round bales.. i like the longer spears cause we unload both sides from one side of trailer.. one tractor loader reaches to other side with no problem.. the other two are 148 loaders one has shorter spears than the other..i'm sure that the long spears are about 55 inches...they are 3 ft center to center...

MAY GOD BLESS THE USA

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kyhayman

12-11-2006 14:08:44

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Re: Bale Spears in reply to Errin OH, 12-11-2006 08:14:57

Mine is 42" long, 2" diameter. Held in place by a sleeve on the end with a 3/8 bolt through it. It does fine with dry hay, round bale silage, it sags a little. I like the milder steel of these, if they bend you can bend them back.

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Jerry/MT

12-11-2006 12:19:12

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Re: Bale Spears in reply to Errin OH, 12-11-2006 08:14:57

I went out and measured my forged spear. It's 43 inches long from the front of the support beam and it goes into a tapered fitting. The fitting welded to a big piece of rectangular tubing and there's a threaded end on the spear that is held in with a lock washer and and a nut/ The spear is rectangular, and transitions to round where it bolts up and has a 1-3/4" diameter where it goes into the taper fitting.

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Josh in Pa

12-11-2006 10:35:51

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Re: Bale Spears in reply to Errin OH, 12-11-2006 08:14:57

The better spears fit into a tapered "pipe." The pipe is welded to the loader frame, and the spear is held in with one nut on the back. I've never broke one and have used it a lot. Josh

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RodInNS

12-11-2006 10:19:19

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Re: Bale Spears in reply to Errin OH, 12-11-2006 08:14:57

I've got a couple spears around. Big Ox was the name on them, I think.... The spike is about 36" long, or was originally I think. They're hard, hard hard steel, and will break if they're welded.... which we did. They are just drillable. These things had a land cut into the spike, and then the spike sat in a larger housing, machined to fit, and was held in place by a pinch bolt that sat in the land. It wasn't a bad idea except the bolt didn't always hold it, and we'd drive away with the spike stuck in a bale at times. That's why it was welded.... Ended up drilling right through the housing and spike. Dropped a bolt through, and never a problem since. That's at least 15 years ago.
I would think that 2" stress proof shaft would make a good spike.... HTH.

Rod

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Jerry/MT

12-11-2006 09:44:47

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Re: Bale Spears in reply to Errin OH, 12-11-2006 08:14:57

I'll have to go out and measure mine but I'm sure that it's less than 4ft long. It's a forged spear that's eight or six sided and threaded with a taper fit into the main support beam. Look at www.ezeeon.com under accessories for their bale spears. That's what I have.

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