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jc mini

12-10-2006 22:29:25




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I just leased a place that has a establisted alfalfa field about ten acres I also have about twenty three acres of hay medow to put up. I have a 4010 john deere and a 850 ford but no hay equipment, I like round bales.I have been having
my hay put up for me but with the alfala I think its time for me to start putting it up myself.
I though about putting the hay down with a sicle
mower then rake then round bale I dount have thousands to spend I would like to get a haybine
and round baler but dount know how cheap i can get them for.What would you do?

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paul

12-11-2006 08:00:50




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 Re: hah in reply to jc mini, 12-10-2006 22:29:25  
Alfalfa in our type of climate almost needs a mower/conditioner (aka haybine). With a sicle mower the leaves get dry & fall off before the stems dry down it it isn't crimped. You can sickle mow it & run over with a $150 old crimper, but that takes time you might not have? The dependable moco/ haybine might be $3000, but it will give you a lot better alfalfa. Lose a cutting or 2 per year to weather/ leaf loss, & you are pedaling backwards....

Open throat, hyd pressure round balers can be had for $2000 or so & will be servicable for you.

Your 850 is a little light, but if good clutch & good engine, can run a 9 foot haybine. You will have a tougher time without live pto. Will be a nice tractor for running siderake anyhow.

A round baler likes 60-90 hp depending on size; most worthwhile ones need 2 sets of hyd remotes, and live pto sure is a whole lot nicer. Not sure what your 4010 specs out at.

Moving bales, depends how big a baler you get. 5x6 bales is what I get from my $1650 Vermeer 605F. I use the 3pt hitch of my 85hp tractor with a fork type lifter, not the spear, works well. Spear can work too, sissors type 3pt work well too. From $50 for an auction special to $600 for the sissors type. Would take a hefty loader & tractor to stack them with the loader. Smaller 4x4 bales you might have a loader that stacks them easier, but you use a lot of time & twine with smaller bales. Depends what you want when you are done, what's important size or time or costs.

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ktheo1

12-11-2006 03:04:19




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 Re: hah in reply to jc mini, 12-10-2006 22:29:25  
I don't know where you are located,but in central
Illinois a decent ,reliable round baler and moco. is going to cost you 9K to 10K no matter what brand you choose.



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Rexalot

12-11-2006 05:00:06




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 Re: hah in reply to ktheo1, 12-11-2006 03:04:19  
I think you could come up with equipment for considerable less than $10K. I have 3 balers (2 NH, S67/68 and an Oliver 520), 1 haybine (NH 469), and a rake and I have only $2000 in all, collected over the past 7 years. Cost wise, I have spent about $300 on the haybine and $200 on two of the balers for repairs over the span I have owned them.

Patience and shopping a wide market will be required to get equipment cheap. There are deals out there. Don"t rush and buy the first thing you see necessarily. I would go with New Holland or JD brands as the parts support is better.

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