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Formerly PaMike
12-02-2006 03:38:40
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Re: Skid steer mounted bale wrapper in reply to Kent in NB, 11-30-2006 06:21:07
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I have one, so I will answer your questions the best I can. BIG, BIG, HEAVY TRACTOR
I use my wrapper on an Oliver 1755(85 HP) The tractor has a very heavy loader on it and a heavy cab. This tractor is marginal at best. I should really add some front end weights, but I havent figured out how since the loader is in the way. My buddy tried using his 1256(100+) hp and any time he tried to move the tractor with a bale on the back the front end of the tractor came off the ground. With a full stack of weights on the front it was OK, but not great. I would recommend calling Ag Nation. I called them one time and talked to a guy that actually uses it, and makes it. He had all kinds of tips. I really, really doubt the skidloader mount will work well unless you have a HUGE skidloader. The wrapper itself probably weighs close to 1000 lbs, then you figure there is about a foot of dead space between the mounting plate and where the bale starts. So combine all the weight and the leverage from the bale being way out in front and I think it will tip most any skidloader on its nose. You need a tight tense bale. My old NH 852 just doesnt work well with it. I trip the bales early so they arent as big. The bales then just arent dense enough. They want to squash down in between the rolls, then the bale will not turn. They was very aggrivating to me as I battled it many times. I think a GOOD 4 x 4 baler would solve this problem. The guy at ag nation did admit that you really need to wrap them right as they come out of the baler so that they dont develope a flat spot. That flat spot will wedge between the rolls and make the bale hard to turn. I think with smaller bales this is more critical because the rolls are gripping more on the sides, allowing the bale to slip down, where as on bigger bales the rolls are more underneath the bale.
Another problem was that when you turn the speed down on the wrapper with the needle valve you create a pressure drop. The pressure is now less at the hydraulic motors so when I had heavy bales on it the wrapper would stall. I turned the speed up and that solved the problem, but then the wrapped went that fast that the plastic came off the roll very quickly and didnt prestretch properly. What I needed to do was turn the flow down on my tractor remotes, but at the time they were rusted in place.
I think with a BIG tractor, a tight bale, and wrapping right away it would do an ok job. I have only used mine for one season so I really didnt get to work the bugs out yet. I would think for the $9000 price tag you could buy a used belt wrapper that would do a better job. I will brag a little now. I got mine used from the IH dealer. It was repoed from someone, and was missing a roll. Paid $1200 for it, and spend $70 in material and about 10 hours labor to get it operational so I really cant complain too much about it. Any questions?
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