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Chisel Plows Verus Furlough Plow which is better?

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Bob, newbie

11-25-2006 02:04:04




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I need to purchase a plow,what is the advantage to using a chisel plow over a furlough plow? If any. What are the disadvantages?




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Mark

11-27-2006 06:07:20




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 Re: Chisel Plows Verus Furlough Plow which is bett in reply to Bob, newbie, 11-25-2006 02:04:04  
I didn't notice anybody asking what horsepower tractor the man is using. A chisel plow requires some serious horsepower and weight and I haven't seen any chisels made for smaller tractors.

For grins and giggles I hooked my JD 1600 11 shank chisel to my 5320 4 wd with the loader attached for ballast....he-he! made a perfect anchor! This tractor dyno'd 63 horses.....add 63 more and 4,000 pounds and it might pull it. Gotta match the plow to the mule.

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paul

11-25-2006 16:17:05




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 Re: Chisel Plows Verus Furlough Plow which is bett in reply to Bob, newbie, 11-25-2006 02:04:04  
Totally depends on your soil, your crop, your climate, & what you wish to do.

You didn't provide any of that. :)

In my soil & climate, it is very common to fall chisel plow soybean stubble that will be planted to corn the next spring, and to molboard plow corn stalks that will be planted to beans the next spring.

Chisel plow loosens up the ground, leaves it rough, leaves most of the trash on top of the ground to protect it from wind/water erosion. Can be difficult to get crop trash through them unless you chop it or disk it or both first.

Regular plow will turn under the trash & weed seeds, lets the ground dry out & warm up a lot better in spring, cuts off perannual weeds to really slow them down, leaves you a clear seedbed to plant fussy crops. Takes more hp, longer, or both.

Either one can set up a plowpan if you use heavy equipment or work the ground when wet. Typically around here the plow goes 8 inches deep, the chisel 10 inches, so they don't follow the same pan.

So, what do you want to do? Both are heavy tillage, but accomplish different things.

--->Paul

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Bill(Wis)

11-25-2006 14:25:23




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 Re: Chisel Plows Verus Furlough Plow which is bett in reply to Bob, newbie, 11-25-2006 02:04:04  
Don't know a thing about your soil conditions so can only offer a guess. Generally, the trend has been away from moldboard plowing, although most of my neighbors have hung onto their moldboard plows "just in case". One saw an alfalfa field he didn't like the looks of in late May, turned that alfalfa upside down with the old moldboard, disced and dragged it and planted that field to corn all in the matter of a day or two. Hard to do something like that with a chisel plow. For fall tillage, I prefer tilling deep and leaving a rough surface. Then, in the spring, just before planting, I'll use what I think best to make a seedbed. Sometimes a pulvimulcher, sometimes a mulch finisher or maybe a disc with a springtooth drag behind it. Depends on moisture, roughness, what I'm going to plant, etc.

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Allan In NE

11-25-2006 13:26:55




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 Re: Chisel Plows Verus Furlough Plow which is bett in reply to Bob, newbie, 11-25-2006 02:04:04  
None that I can think of, except if you have some flat land that has a tendency to blow in the wintertime.

A chisel will rough it up enough so that the wind can't lift and take it away. I always chiseled across the direction of the prevailing winter winds which are out of the northwest in this area.

Allan



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Don-Wi

11-25-2006 09:38:40




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 Re: Chisel Plows Verus Furlough Plow which is bett in reply to Bob, newbie, 11-25-2006 02:04:04  
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We use both. A moldboard plow works great for plowing under sod (hay) feilds to put them back in corn. We've chiseled a few in the past and had poor results because the chisel doesn't turn under all of the alfalfa like a moldboard plow does.

In corn feilds though, they work great. We rent a 7-shank Brillion Soil Commander (disc chisel) from the local dealer. We did most of our fall tillage last weekend, with the exeption of 1 feild we are going to moldboard yet.

It seems every body has a different opinion of what a chisel plow is. In our area, it's primary tillage only, not done after moldboarding like some have suggested. That's a feild cultivator. Chisel plows are defined by how many shanks, not how many feet wide they are, and all the ones I've seen used in our area have twisted shovels. There are other types of shovels, but for primary tillage that's what you generally want.

In our soil, we pull either a 7 shank disc chisel, or a 4-16 moldboard plow with our Oliver 1855, which pushes 105 HP. Chisels cover more ground with less time and fuel, but are not ALWAYS the best answer.

There are several factors to consider. What size tractor do you have? What are your soil conditions? How deep do you want to go? What are you going to be working up? If it's any kind of sod, I'd go with a moldboard plow the first time. After that, you can use the chisel plow here & there.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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John A.

11-25-2006 06:19:36




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 Re: Chisel Plows Verus Furlough Plow which is bett in reply to Bob, newbie, 11-25-2006 02:04:04  
Bob, IMO,,,If I had only own one piece of tillage equipment it would be a Spring-Reset Chisel plow!
Down here in Central Texas Chiesel plows are the norm.
My reason are...
1. Can be, and is a primary tillage piece
2. Put 14 in. Sweeps on & it is a Field Cultivator.
3. Add Spring Tyne Fingers and it is a finishing plow!
4. With the 14 sweeps it can be used in field reclamations programs, get rid of small Sapling trees, catcus, and the like.
5 Again with the sweeps on, small errosion areas in fields can be filled up and leveled!!!
The springs will aid in not totalally tearing itself up in new, unnfamiliar fields.
6.Its versatility is only liited by your imagination and needs.
7.After moldbooarding (furlough plowing) one has to Chisel, Disk or something to get the soil leveled out. So as you see from my stand point the chisel plow has more versatility. Thats JMO.
Hope this helps.
Later,
John A.

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pcy1066

11-25-2006 06:06:03




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 Re: Chisel Plows Verus Furlough Plow which is bett in reply to Bob, newbie, 11-25-2006 02:04:04  
molboard plowing turns the dirt over covers weed seeds and stubble,usally a lot less weeds in ground that is moleboard plowed, it takes a lot more time and trips around the feild this way, if a tractor pulls a 12 foot chisel 24 feet covered out and back , the same tractor pulling say 4 16 inch moleboards only covers 10.66 feet out and back and the 4 bottom pulls harder, the chisel plows will help break up the soil hardpan but leave a lot of trash on top of the ground,good for soil erosion but not for weed control, chisel plowing is often refeered to as minimum till, it takes less feild work to get ground redy to plant also when chissel plowed usally we disk once and harrowgate and plant , if its moleboard we disk 2 or 3 times hope this helps also a chissel plow will bring rocks to the top you never knew was there after years of moleboarding,

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jhill52

11-25-2006 05:31:25




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 Re: Chisel Plows Verus Furlough Plow which is bett in reply to Bob, newbie, 11-25-2006 02:04:04  
If you are talking about a furrow plow vs a chisel plow. A furrow plow will create a plow pan over time which can limit root development and water infiltration. A chisel plow leave a rought surface with more trash on surface for better soil retention and also no plow pan.



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Tx Jim

11-25-2006 03:41:23




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 Re: Chisel Plows Verus Furlough Plow which is bett in reply to Bob, newbie, 11-25-2006 02:04:04  
Bob,what is a furlough plow? Are you talking about a moldboard plow if so they make furrows. TX Jim



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B-maniac

11-25-2006 19:44:16




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 Re: Chisel Plows Verus Furlough Plow which is bett in reply to Tx Jim, 11-25-2006 03:41:23  
If you have to choose one or the other , then it would have to be the chisel plow. Can be easily adapted to do many things. If you have very light loamy soil , it might be a toss-up since a chisel plow isn't very effective in real light soils.



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