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Weedfarmer

11-12-2006 18:37:54




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I am getting too old and tired to buck square bales and cant find help so I'm concidering a round baler.
I only have a NH TC33D which is great for my JD24T but don't know if it will pull a rounder. Any sugestions about brand and model of baler would be helpful in making up my mind about it. I only bale about 600 squares a year and can't financially justify much in a baler or a bigger tractor.
Thanks

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gh65

11-18-2006 08:18:54




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 Re: round balers in reply to Weedfarmer, 11-12-2006 18:37:54  
Have a nice Hesston 530 thta only needs 30 hp for sale. Around a 1000 bales thru.



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marty g.

11-15-2006 05:38:08




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 Re: round balers in reply to Weedfarmer, 11-12-2006 18:37:54  
Have you tought about a flat eight bale accumulator and a clamp for a loader. You would keep your little square baler and pull behind it an accumulator that arranges 8 bales in a square shape, then your pick up the 8 bales with your loader to put on your trailer. Just something else to think about.



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RodInNS

11-13-2006 09:02:54




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 Re: round balers in reply to Weedfarmer, 11-12-2006 18:37:54  
I don't know the PTO hp spec on the TC33D right off, but the 33 indicates gross hp... so PTO power is probably about 5 less than that. I'd say at very best, you're asking a lot from that tractor.
If you do decide to try it, I would find the lowest weight baler I could find. The 3x4 model talked about would be good. Also, make sure it's a variable chamber baler. This way, if you do find that the tractor is running short of power you can just tie the bale off and eject it. If you've got a fixed chamber like my Claas, you can't tie off a good undersize bale. The only real option is to keep slugging it out. Claas is the only baler I'd recomend to anyone, but it's simply not in the cards with the power you have to work with. Choose carefully in what you want, but if it was me, I'd be looking for an open throat, variable chamber belt type baler. Good luck.

Rod

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Luke S

11-13-2006 07:19:06




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 Re: round balers in reply to Weedfarmer, 11-12-2006 18:37:54  
You should look at a Hesston 5530 or a Vermeer 403. You could pull either of those balers with your tractor as long as you are not trying to set any speed records. Both can be had used for between $1,000-$4,000 depending on condition as they are older machines. There are some Hesston 530's out there selling for $4,000-$6,000 if youlook and it would good too.



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Mike in Houston

11-13-2006 05:34:40




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 Re: round balers in reply to Weedfarmer, 11-12-2006 18:37:54  
Not sure of that tractors' HP but I'm thinking it's around 33-35. Hesston, Massey Ferguson, New Idea and I think Challenger all have a baler that makes a bale about 3' wide x 4' tall and weighs ~500 lbs. The Hesston is a model 730 and the Massey is a model 1734. Believe I got those model numbers right. All of these have spring tension so they won't make the tightest bale in the world but would be ok and spring tension balers turn pretty easy while making a bale. Your tractor should turn one of these balers ok but it may get worked pretty hard at times. I think the specs on these balers call for 30 hp. If you have hills, you may hit a weight thing with that baler behind you with a bale in it. If you buy new, talk to the dealers and see what they say about tractor power/size vs the baler. If you've never used/owned a round baler, do some research. Find out what open throat vs closed throat mean. You'll be happier with an open throat. If you can find a John Deere 410 or a 510, take a look at them. They are closed throat and you will see what I'm talking about when you see where the hay feeds between those stupid rollers in the front. Those rollers can be your worst nightmare ever. If you know someone who runs round balers, go talk to them and tell them you're looking for one and see if they will ride with you when you go to see a baler. Experience with them is very helpful when evaluating a used baler and would be helpful showing you how to run one of them. If you go new, tell the dealer a mechanic has to come out with the baler to help you with it the first time you use it. My dealer sent a mechanic with it the day it came home. He ran it first just to make sure everything was ok and then turned it over to me. I had run John Deere's before so he really didn't have to explain anything to me except how the controls worked. We had that thing baling hay about an hour after leaving the dealers lot.
I bought a new New Holland 730 silage baler this year and run it behind a John Deere 5105. New Holland's web site specs called for 45 hp to run the baler and I'm turning ~40. My dealer was really worried about my tractor being able to pull that baler but I pull it fine and as fast as I want to go but then I'm on perfectly level ground. Turned out to be a nice little baler/tractor combination and perfect for my size op.
I think Vermeer also had a baler that was a 3' wide by 4' tall baler. Don't know much about them. I think it was a 403. Just heard of them on this board. I'd look for something about that size with no more hay than you'll be making. 600 squares @ 60 pounds each = 36,000# divided by a 500# round bale = 72 bales a year. That's about 1/4 (weight wise) of what I get on each cutting and couldn't justify bigger equipment for that.
Good luck finding a baler and enjoy it once you get it. Stay safe and never walk up to one of those balers while it's turning! Stop it, kill the tractor then go see what's wrong back there. mee

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hayray

11-13-2006 04:36:15




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 Re: round balers in reply to Weedfarmer, 11-12-2006 18:37:54  
my New Holland round baler takes a minimum of 35 horse power.



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Allan In NE

11-13-2006 03:53:18




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 Re: round balers in reply to Weedfarmer, 11-12-2006 18:37:54  
Sure can't blame ya for wanting to make that swap.

Remember that you've got to have a system for wrestlin' the round guys too, which will take a few bucks.

Hope ya get it figured out,

Allan



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allisb

11-12-2006 18:51:40




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 Re: round balers in reply to Weedfarmer, 11-12-2006 18:37:54  
Buy your hay, its less expensive in the long run for the quantity you handle



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Weedfarmer

11-12-2006 19:00:24




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 Re: round balers in reply to allisb, 11-12-2006 18:51:40  
Then what would I use the tractor and equipment I already have for and I enjoy being out in the fields on the tractor, it's just too hard on me to buck the squares.



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old

11-12-2006 19:51:52




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 Re: round balers in reply to Weedfarmer, 11-12-2006 19:00:24  
Well I don't know the HP of that tractor but theres a good number of the smaller round balers that will work on a 40 or so HP tractor. I know how it is I usto do the square bales but had to switch to round because of my back. I put up around 25-50 round bales a year and use an old NH850 chain baler but it takes a 55HP or bigger tractor to pull it

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