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tooth harrow or a drag harrow?

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Georgia

11-08-2006 03:12:04




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which one for leveling out after plowing under and disc harrowing is better,this is for garden area before planting with an old Covington planter.
Soil is heavy clay & dirt mix.
I tried makeing an iron I beam drag but its too heavy and compacts the soil and moves too much of it around.
Just got done putting in a green manure to turn under for next spring. Thank you for any reply




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Georgia

11-09-2006 12:37:11




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 Re: tooth harrow or a drag harrow? in reply to Georgia, 11-08-2006 03:12:04  
thanks for the ideas and replies.
ElToro sounds like you had an interesting life I have a neighbor down thru the woods who still uses his mule today ,belive it or not.Matter of fact he has 3 of them he uses. I got hold of a piece of not railroad i beam but trolly track i beam, its probably Im guessing about 3/4 the size of railroad. Anyway got it today and welded a chain to it to hook to, than took some chain link and fastened it to the track behind it. Than hooked it up behind the disc harrow.Its about 8 ft wide and I tried it out and it seems to be doing what Im wanting. Just wanted to let you all know and thanks again for the ideas

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El Toro

11-09-2006 14:22:28




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 Re: tooth harrow or a drag harrow? in reply to Georgia, 11-09-2006 12:37:11  
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The Amish are still using mules in SE PA. Here's a picture of the tractor that I used for plowing
furrows for my potatoes and for plowing them out. Hal



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El Toro

11-09-2006 14:01:02




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 Re: tooth harrow or a drag harrow? in reply to Georgia, 11-09-2006 12:37:11  
It doesn't need to be elaborate to work good. Using that chain link fence behind the disk or springtooth sounds like a good idea. My brother and I used that same mule for cultivating the garden after she had been used in the field all day. She never ate or tried to eat anything in the garden. Hal



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El Toro

11-09-2006 05:44:45




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 Re: tooth harrow or a drag harrow? in reply to Georgia, 11-08-2006 03:12:04  
We used what "55 50" recommended by using a spring tooth harrow with a drag. Our soil was loamy and we used this prior to planting corn. We never used it in the garden. We would plow and then disk the garden. We raised a lot of potatoes back then and my brother and I used a mule to lay off the potato rows and then the whole family started dropping the seed potatoes and covering them. I now use a Troy Bilt tiller to lay off the potato rows. When I had a large garden I used my Wards garden tractor with the moldboard plow to do this for potatoes and sweet corn. I used the same tractor when it was time to raise the potatoes by plowing them out. My wife and daughter liked scratching out those potatoes. I see all these potato diggers that are used. Sure would like to have one of those back then. Hal

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paul

11-08-2006 10:05:10




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 Re: tooth harrow or a drag harrow? in reply to Georgia, 11-08-2006 03:12:04  
A spike tooth harrow will bust up clods & level better. Big dips or deep wheel tracks won't get covered on one pass tho.

A spring tooth harrow will scratch around & cover up wheel tracks & other dips & such, leaving a less-leveled but more worked over surface. Won't doo much for lumps.

Any harrow will have difficulty in heavy trash, seens the springs like to plug up a little quicker.

For clay that has lumps that one wants to smash up a bit, spike tooth is better.

Spring tooth has it's use too tho.

--->Paul

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55 50

11-08-2006 06:42:28




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 Re: tooth harrow or a drag harrow? in reply to Georgia, 11-08-2006 03:12:04  
A "drag" harrow will make a reasonably smooth and level bed, but it won"t cover tractor wheel marks very well. You may want to consider both a spring tooth harrow and a drag harrow pulled together with the drag harrow behind the spring tooth harrow. The spring teeth will do much better covering tractor wheel marks, then the drag harrow can smooth without having those wheel marks to contend with.

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hay

11-08-2006 04:35:09




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 Re: tooth harrow or a drag harrow? in reply to Georgia, 11-08-2006 03:12:04  
after plowing and then discing over the area, i usually hook up my homemade ridgid tooth harrow and go over the whole area several times and it smooths it all out and makes a nice fluffy seedbed in my garden.



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Brendon

11-08-2006 03:37:36




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 Re: tooth harrow or a drag harrow? in reply to Georgia, 11-08-2006 03:12:04  
Sounds like a spike tooth harrow would be what you are needing for that kind of work. Sections are 5 or 6 feet wide and will smooth and level the top inch or two of ground. By "tooth harrow" I am guessing that you are refering to a spring tooth harrow? If so, that implement cuts deeper than a spike tooth harrow and will not leave the surface as smooth. The spring tooth is a lot more effective at uprooting weeds, though, as long as there is not a lot of residue on the surface. A spring tooth harrow can quickly become a rake in trashy conditions.

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Georgia

11-08-2006 03:48:00




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 Re: tooth harrow or a drag harrow? in reply to Brendon, 11-08-2006 03:37:36  
I was primarly concerned with just leveling behind the disc harrow and was refering to a spike tooth harrow ..... sorry for the confusion on my part



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BCnT

11-08-2006 09:32:41




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 Re: tooth harrow or a drag harrow? in reply to Georgia, 11-08-2006 03:48:00  
if you just want to level ridges behind disc try some chain link fence fabric...i got a couple 4'x10' pieces out of a dumpster that i chain to back of disc and drag...works great and it was free!



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