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Randy as in Ran

10-17-2006 18:19:20

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Hi All , The freeze has happened here in Iowa and the alfalfa is dying in the mix so when if ever this fall would it be OK to cut for horse hay ? I expect that getting it dry would be next to impossible . What would the best idea be for for the field ? The grass is about 10-15 inches tall since I was trying to let it go to seed but it hasn't . It has a bad rust infection right now also that I don't know what to do about . I thought maybe I'd just leave it till spring and burn the field . Any suggestions ? It's 6 acres . Thanks ...Randy

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Jossette

10-20-2006 15:02:23

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Re: To late to cut hay ? in reply to Randy as in Randy-IA, 10-17-2006 18:19:20

where in Iowa is it freezing??? Southern Minn we're still cutting and baling.. For the horses though, you should have cut it the morning after the frost. If you have waited more than a week it OK for cows but not horses. suppose to be in the 50's all weekend..

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Randy as in Randy-IA

10-20-2006 18:33:57

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Re: To late to cut hay ? in reply to Jossette, 10-20-2006 15:02:23

Hi Jossette , It got down to the mid twenties last weekend . The alfalfa is mostly wilting now . It looks as though the grass has perked up some this week but it may just be my optimism . I'm near the northwest side of waverly in northeast iowa . Out of six acres I only have about 2 acres of alfalfa mix . It's supposed to rain this weekend with a mix of flurries later tomorrow . I'm not to concerned about whether I can feed it to the horses or not but whether I should I get it off the field for an easy start next spring ? I want to put some more fertilizer on it this fall after the soil temperature gets below 45* . Thanks , take care ...Randy

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Jossette

10-21-2006 06:07:19

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Re: To late to cut hay ? in reply to Randy as in Randy-IA, 10-20-2006 18:33:57

If it hasn't blumbed yet, it wont matter with the cutting or the fertilizer. It will be real thick the first cutting and could be tough with out a haybine. I wouldn't spend a lot of time or fuel on it anymore. Knocking it down with the sprayer or manure spreader wont matter now, it will be back in full color next May. I went to Waverly to the big fall auction. Didn't buy anything cause everyone else had more money than I wanted to spend.

have a good one

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Randy as in Randy-IA

10-22-2006 13:11:08

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Re: To late to cut hay ? in reply to Jossette, 10-21-2006 06:07:19

Hi , Yep It bloomed a few weeks ago but I was more concerned with the grass in the mix . I was wanting it ( the grass ) to go to seed but the cold hit a month early this year . But the grass does look better these day's since we are getting good rains . Not sure what you mean about not mattering with the cutting or fertilizer if it hasn't bloomed yet ? I fertilized after the poor first cutting this year and got a good second cutting but then it all fizzled out and I really never got a third cutting because the grass didn't recover from the second cutting very well due to not enough rain . But as I said , now it's starting to look up due to the rains we've been getting . I have an old 990 moco which didn't fare to well in the second cutting since it sucked a wad of grass into the belt and popped the belt in two about halfway thru the second round on the 4th of July so I had to finish up with the old Oliver 415 sickle which did a pretty good job .

After looking at a bunch of web sites on rust fungi I don't think that's what's on my field even though that's what it looks like . It must be just simple leafhopper/grasshopper damage or some drift from the neighboring bean field . Guess I'll wait till later next year to see if it comes back .

If you went to the sale barn auction I work just a quarter mile to the west behind the Draft Horse Journal . I don't go to that one anymore because I can't compete with the west coast antique and collectible store buyers either . They can buy at exorbitant prices because they can sell it even higher out west . Nothing wrong with that , it just keeps me from going . I'll stick with the farm auctions , prices are a lot lower . Take care ...Randy

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Jossette

10-22-2006 13:26:09

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Re: To late to cut hay ? in reply to Randy as in Randy-IA, 10-22-2006 13:11:08

you probably had hoppers. We get them every 3rd cutting so we have to spray after the second crop.

We just got the last cutting of ditch hay up today. It doesnt take long to dry when it dried from the first frost.

If it were me, I would put the cutting equipt away until next May. Unless you really need the hay?? It will be OK. 2 years ago we had to leave the alfalfa (4th crop) cause it was to wet and it did fine the next spring.

put the bucket on the loader and wait for it to snow. In the mean time--chase momma around the house.

Have a good one

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Teddy (punchie)

10-19-2006 05:56:14

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Re: To late to cut hay ? in reply to Randy as in Randy-IA, 10-17-2006 18:19:20

Hi Randy

We bale as long as we have weather to do so, baled 8-10 acres of alfafla mix hay mon 9 th. Lastest we have baled is 1 st week of nov. Takes about 10-15 hours to dry hay to square bale. Make sure you can feed,sell, give away any that are green, there maybe about 10% or more. If you can get it made makes some of the best hay. Make sure you check for heating. May wish to salt if you do bale it and need to salt e-mail me, cost is about 2-5 cents a bale. The rust thing I'm not sure of that you would have to search and make up your mind on that.

Teddy western PA

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Jason, NW Ontario

10-18-2006 08:11:12

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Re: To late to cut hay ? in reply to Randy as in Randy-IA, 10-17-2006 18:19:20

Just finished baling 7 acres of meadow grass, timothy etc., and it had previously been rained and snowed on. since there wasn't any seed left on it to speak of, I turned it three days in a row and then baled it. The only wet bales were at the west end of the field where the leaves had been blown onto the field. Those ones weighed 80+lbs. Can't believe the twine held. The rest is dry, and will be fed immediately. I didn't set the rake down as far as I normally would. This left the heaviest wet stuff from getting turned. I've got another ten acres this week. The horses eat it all, but if the weather turns sour and cold the rest will be stored until the spring when the nutrient levels aren't as critical. If you bale it or not, I wouldn't burn it. Horses with founder actually benefit from having low sugar level hay, which is what you get this time of year. Ask your vet and farrier.
jay

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Nebraska Cowman

10-18-2006 06:00:54

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Re: To late to cut hay ? in reply to Randy as in Randy-IA, 10-17-2006 18:19:20

I doubt you want to feed rust to horses. It would make cow hay if you could get it dry but that is hard. We used to cut late hay at home and feed it up right away. But if you have no cows that might not be an option. If you leave it til spiring the snow will knock it down and the new will come on fine. You won't need to burn it.

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Randy as in Randy-IA

10-18-2006 18:36:30

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Re: To late to cut hay ? in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 10-18-2006 06:00:54

Hi Cowman , No cows or any neighbors with beef cattle just dairy so what can be done about the rust infection ? Will it come back year after year if I don't use a fungicide ? That's one of the reason's I have for burning it but I usually burn the ditches each early spring anyway just after the grass starts growing and the weeds don't fair so well usually . Besides it does add a small amount of potash to the soil and helps get rid of that wet undergrowth that's hard to cut with ancient equipment ( IH 990 moco ) . Any more suggestions would be greatly appreciated . Take care ...Randy

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Nebraska Cowman

10-19-2006 04:51:48

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Re: To late to cut hay ? in reply to Randy as in Randy-IA, 10-18-2006 18:36:30

I guess you'd have to talk with your county agent or maybe look it up at the Iowa university website. I thought rust was a problem in wet weather and we don't have that here.

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Randy as in Randy-IA

10-18-2006 18:34:24

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Re: To late to cut hay ? in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 10-18-2006 06:00:54

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BigMarv1085

10-18-2006 05:19:07

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Re: To late to cut hay ? in reply to Randy as in Randy-IA, 10-17-2006 18:19:20

I will be cutting hay for the next two weeks.

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Hard Knocks

10-18-2006 04:39:09

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Re: To late to cut hay ? in reply to Randy as in Randy-IA, 10-17-2006 18:19:20

I'm still making hay here in Virginia bet the cows will like it better than a snowball! Actually its a grassy mix and pretty decent quality.Just need the weather to cooperate a little better.

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wolfman

10-17-2006 19:46:38

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Re: To late to cut hay ? in reply to Randy as in Randy-IA, 10-17-2006 18:19:20

I just baled a 7 acre field (baled Mon Oct 16 that I mowed Sat the 14th) here in s.w.Pa. I think it freeze dried. Had 2 1/2 days of sun, but short days, 30 degree nights, mostly kind of heavy wild grass & I did tedd it Mon before noon. By late Mon it rattled pretty good as I square baled it.

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