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Ron (N. AZ)

10-14-2006 12:59:11




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Wondering if some of you folks could help me figure out what model plow this is. It came with a 1953 Farmall Super C with the fast hitch.

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Edd in Ky

10-14-2006 15:03:30




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 Re: Need HELP identifying Plow! in reply to Ron (N. AZ), 10-14-2006 12:59:11  
Can't tell you the model but I assume you know that it is a kick back plow( thats what we called it) that allows you to turn around and plow back down the same furrow from the opposite direction. Where I grew up, an old fellow would come to town in the spring to plow gardens, and he used one to plow in tight spots behind houses. He could do the job in minutes even if the turn space was only a couple feet. Not sure if that was the main use for them, maybe they had a more significant role in farming.

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Hugh MacKay

10-14-2006 14:56:53




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 Re: Need HELP identifying Plow! in reply to Ron (N. AZ), 10-14-2006 12:59:11  
Ron: I can get you started as IH built the exact plow except for the hitch forks for the one point fast hitch tractors. I have a parts book for the one point fast hitch plow and before 1958 they call it a 1-F11, and after 58 a 101.

The only difference in the two plows is where your plow has a round cross member between the two hitch forks, with a round shaft tee'd of the cross member for the pivot, the one point fast hitch plow has one straight shaft, including the hitch fork.

Just to be cretain here are a few part numbers, main pivot bracket to which both beams fasten to 521 474 R1, left beam 521 497 R1 and right beam 521 498 R1. This is a dealer parts book I have, and it contains about 45 plows from that era. One would expect your plow to be in there as well. Someone removed the sections for several other plows I am aware of from that era, before I got the book.

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Ron (N. AZ)

10-14-2006 15:39:02




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 Re: Need HELP identifying Plow! in reply to Hugh MacKay, 10-14-2006 14:56:53  
Hugh, Thanks for the information. I won't have it home until next weekend. But I'll check for any numbers on the beams or elsewhere when I get it home.

I understand what your saying about the 1-F11 one point fast hitch plow. I found a website that shows the L-F194 for the Farmall Cub and the 1-f194 for the Farmall 100. L-F194 and 1-F194 Plows

Haven't found anything like what I have though.

I'll post back when I get some numbers.

Thanks for the start!!!

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Hugh MacKay

10-14-2006 18:25:53




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 Re: Need HELP identifying Plow! in reply to Ron (N. AZ), 10-14-2006 15:39:02  
Ron: Knowing what I do about IH and the way they assigned model numbers, here is my best guess for your plow model number. Try looking for 2-F11. My thinking 1-F11 for one point fast hitch and 2-F11 for two point fast hitch. Likewise after 1958, the two plows were probably known as 101 and 201. I'm not certain, but it's worth a look.

Just before the days of fast hitch, IH used model numbers like this for example; 295 plow. There were A-295, C-295 and HM-295. Same with the 16 mower. A-16, C-16 and HM-16. Those plows and mowers were the same, just the mounting hardware for each tractor was different.

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Ron (N. AZ)

10-15-2006 09:03:56




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 Re: Need HELP identifying Plow! in reply to Hugh MacKay, 10-14-2006 18:25:53  
Hugh, Can you recommend a good book or other reference material on IH plows?

I found this one but don"t know anything about it. "International Harvester Farm Equipment Product History 1831-1985" by BAUMHECKEL/BORG.



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Hugh MacKay

10-15-2006 13:11:04




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 Re: Need HELP identifying Plow! in reply to Ron (N. AZ), 10-15-2006 09:03:56  
Ron: My thoughts are a book with product history for over 100 years will probably not go into enough detail for you. I have the book 150 Years of IH by CH Wendel. These authors tend to do the complete tractor lineup and give a small sampling of implements down through the years.

I'd be more inclined to go online with Binder Books, They have the rights to reproduce all old IH manuals. I know they do operator's manuals, possibly parts manuals. Tell them what you know regarding the one point fast hitch plow, and explain the basic difference in the two plows. Keep in mind there are a few manuals they don't reproduce, just not enough volume.

I have two IH dealer parts books here and between the two they have sections on about 65 plows built between 1930 and 1970. These are 3 ring binder books and sections on specific plows have been removed. IH probably built a 100 or more different plows in that time frame. I suspect folks buy these books, remove the section on their plow, then put it back on market. I knew there were sections missing when I bought these books, thus I don't feel cheated. I was looking for as much info as I could get, on as many plows as possible.

I wouldn't recommend that route if your trying to zero in on a specific plow.

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Ron (N. AZ)

10-15-2006 13:24:45




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 Re: Need HELP identifying Plow! in reply to Hugh MacKay, 10-15-2006 13:11:04  
Hugh, Again thanks for some very insightful information.

I guess in the back of my mind I knew what your saying about those books but just never really paid much thought to it.

I'll get with the folks at Binder Books and see what we can come up with. I've dealt with them in the past when buying manuals for my Farmall B and M. Great folks to deal with.

Thanks again for your time and insight.

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