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New Holland 467 Haybine Sickle Knife Bushing

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Andy R

10-10-2006 17:32:27




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While going over a recently purchased NH 467 Haybine I discovered the sickle knife bushing had
been jury rigged by a previous owner. I have the new bushing in the knife and am not sure if there should be a washer under the head of the bolt. The NH parts guy couldn't help. It looks to me like a washer does not go there (the jury rigged bushing had two washers under the head).

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Andy

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Andy R

10-14-2006 06:04:24




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 Re: New Holland 467 Haybine Sickle Knife Bushing in reply to Andy R, 10-10-2006 17:32:27  
Thanks for all the good information.

Andy



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Bob/wis

10-11-2006 14:13:59




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 Re: New Holland 467 Haybine Sickle Knife Bushing in reply to Andy R, 10-10-2006 17:32:27  
After years of running a 469 here is a few tips for new holland owners. First no washers are needed. Second use a bolt long enough to double nut it to lock it. Third when tightening the nut hold the bolt and just turn the nut. This does not load the bushing with undo stress. Install the bolt from the bottom up. Most of my problems always started from either a lock nut backing off or a lock washer giving up. So, the reason for double nuts. Turning the bolt causes the rubber to twist around the center sectionof the bushing. The last bushing I replaced had close to 300 acres on it. We have grass alalfa mix hay. Some of the grass cuts hard as heck. So, they take a beating. Keep good sections in them and good guards. Make sure evrything moves free in the whole cutting area.
Hope this helps.
Bob

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Allan In NE

10-11-2006 15:08:44




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 Re: New Holland 467 Haybine Sickle Knife Bushing in reply to Bob/wis, 10-11-2006 14:13:59  
Hi Bob,

It surprises me that no one has mentioned that the thing has to be locked down in the center of the register so that the bushing operates correctly and has no undue stress pulling in one direction only.



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Bob/wis

10-12-2006 09:29:08




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 Re: New Holland 467 Haybine Sickle Knife Bushing in reply to Allan In NE, 10-11-2006 15:08:44  
Yeap your right on that too. I just never gave that much thought when I was typing the response yesterday. They are good machines but can be a pain sometimes too.
Bob



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Jim in NC

10-11-2006 11:24:48




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 Re: New Holland 467 Haybine Sickle Knife Bushing in reply to Andy R, 10-10-2006 17:32:27  
I forgot to mention this earlier. I had to replace 2 of the bushings at close intervals. I asked the parts guy about this. He said to replace the bushing in the wobble shaft where the sickle bolts. I replaced this bushing before my fall hay cutting. So far, so good.



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BillyinStoughton

10-11-2006 09:31:42




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 Re: New Holland 467 Haybine Sickle Knife Bushing in reply to Andy R, 10-10-2006 17:32:27  
Oh Andy, you are fighting a battle with a 467 that I have fought many, many times.

The first good piece of advice that one of the guys threw out, was to keep an extra bushing on hand. They are relatively cheap, and if you have a hyrdaulic press, they are quick to replace.

That being said, after burning out many bushings trying washers, no washers, applying a good amount of torque to the nut...this is what I've found works the best (and I got this from a Case / New Holland mechanic)...NO WASHERS AND JUST GOOD AND SNUG ON THE NUT! That's why there are not washers in the OEM bushing kit.

You will notice that the nut that is supplied with the bushing is an all metal lock nut, so it stands to reason that it would not be a real high torque application. Since installing the new bushing and tightening it up as per the direction of the mechanic...this was the first full hay season I didn't have to replace a bushing.

Good luck!

Billy

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AB

10-10-2006 17:45:24




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 Re: New Holland 467 Haybine Sickle Knife Bushing in reply to Andy R, 10-10-2006 17:32:27  
Here's a tip - keep a couple spare bushings on hand. They usually go out on me on Sunday afternoon's when the dealer's closed, with one acre to go and 10 minutes till dark.



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Jim in NC

10-10-2006 17:43:02




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 Re: New Holland 467 Haybine Sickle Knife Bushing in reply to Andy R, 10-10-2006 17:32:27  
I just bought and installed one of these about 3 weeks ago. The repair kit consisted of a bushing, bolt, nut, and a lockwasher. I asked the parts man the same question as you. He said that no washer was needed under the bolt head. Hope this helps.



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Allan In NE

10-10-2006 17:40:06




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 Re: New Holland 467 Haybine Sickle Knife Bushing in reply to Andy R, 10-10-2006 17:32:27  
Andy,

One washer on each side of the center pipe of the bushing to hold it tight.

Allan



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