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256 NH Rake AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Big un

09-27-2006 17:11:36




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I posted about a week ago about getting the reel bearings out of the bar.Well, I got some good advice how to do it.I have done everything that ya'll told me and I still can't get the race out of the bar.I have only a small amount of hide left on all my knuckles and I have ran out of patience. I'm at my ropes end and the knot is quickly coming untied.Don't know what else to do.
Please help.Anybody,please help.Pleaseeee.

Thanks

Bigun

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kyhayman

09-30-2006 20:30:58




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 Re: 256 NH Rake AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in reply to Big un, 09-27-2006 17:11:36  
Smoke wrench, gets them every time. Normally, mine drop out with heat, but on occassion I have to clip the race. Welding a bead inside would probably work too, Ive done that other places and on other things, just not on the rake since Im always heating them first.

Hopefully I've put a stop to that this year. Between my dad and I we have 3 of them. Each winter Ive replaced all the bearings and drilled the center of the bar for a grease fitting. Last one comes into the shop as soon as fall hay is done.

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glennster

09-28-2006 13:33:32




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 Re: 256 NH Rake AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in reply to Big un, 09-27-2006 17:11:36  
i just rebuilt a 3point post hole digger and ran into the same problems. one race i used a pilot bearing puller to get it out, it has jaws the open out, they lock open with a nut. the other one i welded a grade 8 bolt across the race, cut and grind bolt to fit, weld with a 7018 low hydrogen rod, then use a slide hammer to hook the bolt and pound it out. i cleaned up the bores with a cylinder hone on a cordless drill. try freezing the new races overnite in the freezer, they are a little easier to drive in. use a brass rod to drive them so you dont damage the race.

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Steve from New Holland

09-28-2006 04:32:24




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 Re: 256 NH Rake AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in reply to Big un, 09-27-2006 17:11:36  
Cut it in half with a torch. If you do not have a torch, run a bead of weld along the inside and let it cool. If you torch it, you will probably leave torch or cut marks that will need to be rotary filed. No matter how you look at it, it is not a nice job. A torch is still your best friend. Steve



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alberta hayer

09-27-2006 19:49:51




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 Re: 256 NH Rake AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in reply to Big un, 09-27-2006 17:11:36  
I've had good luck welding a heavy beed around the inside of the race. Don't be afraid of too much heat. I use 1/8 rod @ 120 amps D.C. Weld all the way around the race if you can. Let it cool over night and in the morning you will be able to tap it out easy. Its always worked for me. Good luck.



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e

09-27-2006 17:43:30




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 Re: 256 NH Rake AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in reply to Big un, 09-27-2006 17:11:36  
I haven't been following this, but I'm assuming you have a bearing race stuck in a blind bore. Have you tried running a weld bead around the ID of the bearing race? I've been stuck in your situation before on numerous ocasions and this trick has always saved me. You see, when the weld bead cools, it contracts and pulls the bearing race in a few thousands.



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Wayne in Tx

09-27-2006 17:36:02




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 Re: 256 NH Rake AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in reply to Big un, 09-27-2006 17:11:36  
I have cut through the race with a dremel tool. I replaced 3 bearings this year took about 5 minutes a piece with the metal cut off blade, cut it almost through in 2 places and give it a couple licks with a chisel. I had tried a bunch of other ways over the years and for me this was the fastest.



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jswintx

09-27-2006 17:29:42




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 Re: 256 NH Rake AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in reply to Big un, 09-27-2006 17:11:36  
If it is like any other race, as stated before, you can put heat to it. Well I have also taken races and cut threw the race woth a torch. When you do this, turn your torch down (not so hot) and cut the race on one side then cut the opposite side with the torch as well. Take a little out at a time if you've never done this before. Once you have made the cuts, take a small chizel or punch and hammer on it a little. Keep doing this and eventually they will come out. Just be careful not to damage the housing. If you do happen to nick the houseing, take some fine sandpaper or emory cloth and smooth it out and will usually still work just fine. Just my two cents.

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