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VKG

09-17-2006 14:41:04

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Hi found a pull type chisel plow 5 shank spring loaded what are the pros and cons between pull type and a 3point hitch type?Going to rework some old hay fields next year, we have a sandy loamy soil here. Thanks VKG

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Glen in TX

09-18-2006 07:45:55

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Re: Chisel plow in reply to VKG, 09-17-2006 14:41:04

Yep different kinds of chisels. What many call a chisel plow we call a sweep plow or hoeme because they were used with 18" or 22" sweeps for wheatland ground and could be changed over for chisels but ground here is too hard to usually get that size of sweep plow in ground with chisels and work to change around so many have a smaller one for chiseling with parabolic shanks. 3 point advantages? Shorter turns and lift higher on ends to let trash fall off. 3 point disadvantages are more wear and tear on your 3 point and load and depth control shaft or linkage. Drag type advantages are less wear and tear on 3 point hitch and can pull a heavier made plow on drawbar without straining 3 point. Once you have a nice drag type that pulls well you'll never want to go back to a 3 point.

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Don-Wi

09-17-2006 19:44:22

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Re: Chisel plow in reply to VKG, 09-17-2006 14:41:04

Like the others mention, there are too many tools called chisel plows. We pull a 7 shank rental unit with our 1855 Ollie (105 HP on the dyno) and it's all it can handle. The ones we rent have a set of straight disks on the front for cutting up the trash, with twisted shovels on the back. We ussually pull it about 6" deep or so. No real point in going extremely deep in our soil because our top soil is only about 8" deep in most spots.

55 HP would pull maybe 3-4 shanks, but it'd be easier to rent a bigger tractor and chisel from the dealer.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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J Schwiebert

09-17-2006 17:44:20

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Re: Chisel plow in reply to VKG, 09-17-2006 14:41:04

Are they straight shank or twisted shanks? Twisted shanks pull harder. I don't know about your sand. How wide is this implement? How far are the shanks apart? What brand is this? Neighbors tried a 15 foot the other week with disks, recommended horse power for that tool is 300. He had 250 in front of it and could not pull it at the depth he wanted. This is not sand. Around here in clay when you talk 5 shank you are talking close to 100 Horse power. Also around here the dryer the soil the better it works. We like to run about 12-15 inches in depth. More questions?

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VKG

09-17-2006 15:28:10

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Re: Chisel plow in reply to VKG, 09-17-2006 14:41:04

Yes it is more of the cultivator type spring loaded that would probably go between 12 and 18 " deep. I'll be pulling it with a 55 hp tractor.Thanks VKG

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HobbyFarmer71

09-18-2006 12:53:28

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Re: Chisel plow in reply to VKG, 09-17-2006 15:28:10

VKG

If it's the old style chisel plow, in my area, which is Eastern Mid-Michigan, 10HP per shank will go about 8-10 inches deep. I don't know what type of tractor, other than 55HP, your pulling it with, but if it weighs about 6,000 pounds you should be alright with 8-10 inches deep.

My 2 cents.

HobbyFarmer71

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BobMo

09-17-2006 19:25:31

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Re: Chisel plow in reply to VKG, 09-17-2006 15:28:10

Sorry VKG but your 55hp won't make it..... ....

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paul

09-17-2006 19:20:21

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Re: Chisel plow in reply to VKG, 09-17-2006 15:28:10

Up here in the midwest, the cultiavtor type go about 5" deep.

The chisel plow type have much heavier shanks & springs, and go over a foot deep.

There is one type that is somewhere in between....

So still not sure what you are looking at.

Cultivator takes 5-7 hp per foot of width.

Chisel plow takes 12-20 hp per foot of width.

More or less.

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Bill (Wis)

09-17-2006 14:49:40

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Re: Chisel plow in reply to VKG, 09-17-2006 14:41:04

I prefer the 3 point type. Easier to pull, cheaper to buy (new). I don't know exactly what you mean by "chisel plow". That name is given by many to different tillage tools. Some go deeper than others and are essentially subsoilers. (16-20+ inches). Some only go in 11 inches or so, have more shanks and are more like field cultivators. I like deep, minimum tillage. With any of them I think you get more out of the tractor by using a 3 point hookup. Harry Ferguson was right.

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