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OT Ryegrass for North East Texas

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JM in Merit

09-16-2006 19:26:38




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What is the best ryegrass to grow in North East Texas that will come back year after year. I know annuals are not suspose to come back but do any reseed if in a normal stocked pasture ( 3 to 5 acers per cow)
Trying to find something that has good yield and will come back year after year.
Also is drilling better than just slinging then lightly disking after wards. Was thinking about drilling but will have to borrow one and one I would borrow the owner says it would drill to about 2 inches and he was unable to adjust it. Afraid this would be too deep. This would be on pasture land after a rain (hoping for rain this weekend).
Any helps appreciated

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Glen in TX

09-18-2006 07:37:07




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 Re: OT Ryegrass for North East Texas in reply to JM in Merit, 09-16-2006 19:26:38  
We got away from rye grass here too and you can't keep enough water on it in a drought here to save it so all our rye grass is gone. Matua we planted years ago is gone too and was a joke for here. Went back to a blend of native grasses, orchard grass and cool season grasses and are seeing it under the tall weeds now if can get those down after rains in panhandle area. Glad to hear y'all are getting some rain and hope you get more. Time for it to dry some here so harvest and wheat planting can continue.

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BCnT

09-18-2006 07:35:01




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 Re: OT Ryegrass for North East Texas in reply to JM in Merit, 09-16-2006 19:26:38  
i'm in south central Texas and all i've ever done is just broadcast oregon ryegrass...always had a good stand without disking...i've gotten away from it past few years due to price 35bux! at local coop for 50# sack...been planting a mix of feed oats and feed wheat for my cattle for winter grazing.
we finally getting some rain...had 4'' last nite and its heading yalls way :)



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TomTX

09-18-2006 13:08:17




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 Re: OT Ryegrass for North East Texas in reply to BCnT, 09-18-2006 07:35:01  
You would be way ahead not to plant any more "feed" oats and wheat. Best to get seed oats or seed wheat. Never know what variety/type is in the "feed" kind. Neighbor planted feed oats few years back, and very first light freeze they all died. Tom



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bjr

09-17-2006 09:13:10




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 Re: OT Ryegrass for North East Texas in reply to JM in Merit, 09-16-2006 19:26:38  
I"m in eastern WA state, desert area. I plowed disc then rototilled my ryegrass pasture, about one and half acres. the weeds just got out-of-hand. The problem in higher temps it just quit growing when the weeds really took off. I went back in with a orchard grass. I had done a small test with the orchard grass and it seem to grow well in the heat and choke out weeds, which is my primary goal. I will feed beef animals with it eventually just not this year. I"m not a fan of ryegrass anymore. I sprinkle irrigate and still didn"t seem to be able to keep enough water on the ryegrass to keep it happy. My two cents bjr

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RodInNS

09-17-2006 07:43:20




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 Re: OT Ryegrass for North East Texas in reply to JM in Merit, 09-16-2006 19:26:38  
First off, I don't know what will work in Texas. I'm a long way from there.... However, we do plant annual ryegrass every year. We also have some perannual (sp) mixed in some of our pasture stands. This works well for us, and so far it has persisted well. What we call annual varieties I believe are correctly called biannuals though. They produce a heavy lush growth the first season, and then in the second season they basically produce a seed stem. The problem we've seen with at least one of these varieties is that it will bolt in the first season and set seed if it's under stress, which is worthless if you're trying to milk cows on the stuff. The varieties we've had were Ajax, Maris Ledger, and Fabio, with Ajax being the far superiour variety in terms of volume and digestability. The Maris Ledger simply was never as lush a feed as the Ajax for whatever reason. I would have to go back and check, but I believe these were all tetraploid italian varieties. Any of them like their water, and heat. No water, and they do nothing.... I'd keep that in mind.

In terms of planting, we just use an old Massey 33. The small seed box, fully open. Probably about 15-20 # per acre. Closer 15. Sometimes roll. Sometimes not. Some guys up here simply broadcast with a Vicon spreader and drag a chain. It doesn't seem to be difficult to grow, but we do generally have more than adequate moisture in the spring. Good luck.

Rod

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hayray

09-17-2006 03:58:51




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 Re: OT Ryegrass for North East Texas in reply to JM in Merit, 09-16-2006 19:26:38  
well since we are off topic I might as well add to it some more - I am in Michigan and I planted some Tetraploid annual ryegrass over a year ago and it survived the winter and came back great. It is the most beutiful grass I have planted before and very palatable. I also planted some perrenial (sp) ryegrass and that sucks! mostly stem, not much leaf, and no height. Sorrry, but I never remembered what variety it was only that it was a tetraploid variety.

Ray

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Tx Jim

09-17-2006 03:24:40




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 Re: OT Ryegrass for North East Texas in reply to JM in Merit, 09-16-2006 19:26:38  
Your being very optomistic about rain this weekend but I hope your right. Oregonryegrass is what farmers plant here.. It reseeds itself every year. Tx Jim



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Jm in Merit

09-17-2006 14:35:56




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 Re: OT Ryegrass for North East Texas in reply to Tx Jim, 09-17-2006 03:24:40  
Hey Jim,
Gotten .6 of inch so far hope to get at least one inch need allotmore though as dry as it it, but thankfull for what we have gotten so far. Hope you getting some rain also.
where do you buy oregon rygrass at, do not think my local store is stocking it.



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BCnT

09-18-2006 07:48:40




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 Re: OT Ryegrass for North East Texas in reply to Jm in Merit, 09-17-2006 14:35:56  
i forgot to say i've never had any luck with the oregon rye reseeding itself...couple people have told me its too hot in Texas???



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Tx Jim

09-18-2006 03:03:35




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 Re: OT Ryegrass for North East Texas in reply to Jm in Merit, 09-17-2006 14:35:56  
I got .5 inch yesterday,I was thankful but could also use more. Do you have a Co-op near you that sells fertilizer? There is a large seed dealer at Justin,Tx but there name won't enter my grey matter.



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