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Steve LeClaire

09-14-2006 11:49:12




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I'm attempting to restore a 1903 Meyers Cloverleaf hay unloader - US pat 12/03. This is one of those old trolleys that runs on a rail suspended from the ridge pole to lift loose hay up the scaffolds. I need to know how to rig the ropes! It's a lost art. Can someone help? thanks!
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Steve LeClaire

09-18-2006 03:58:20




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 Re: hay unloader - hay forks in reply to Steve LeClaire, 09-14-2006 11:49:12  
Thanks to all who responded and started this thread. thanks to Dave Sherburne who answered most specifically. Seems everyone has a general working knowledge, but I'm still looking for an "over/under the pully" type description of how the trolly is actually rigged with rope. What actually returns the trolly to the starting positionat the front of the barn. THere are TWO pullys on the bottom of the unloader trolly, and I'm not sure where the big rope actually goes through them and how. It seems so simple, but...

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jiskies

09-17-2006 18:33:56




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 Re: hay unloader - hay forks in reply to Steve LeClaire, 09-14-2006 11:49:12  
got one up at the peak of the barn even now...course hasn't been used in yearsss.

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Dave Sherburne NY

09-14-2006 17:04:09




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 Re: hay unloader - hay forks in reply to Steve LeClaire, 09-14-2006 11:49:12  
In our barn, the large rope was fasten to the
whipple tree/ evener behind the horse, then thru
a pulley fastened to the vertical beam/ door post,
then up to a pulley near the top of the barn, then
over to and thru a pulley at the end of the barn, then to the hay trolley and down thru one of the pulleys on that to the pulley on the hay fork. then
back up and thru the other pulley on the trolley
and tied in a knot. This is for when the horses pulled the wagon up onto the barn floor in the middle of the barn and the wagon sat under the track waiting to be unloaded. Usually just one horse was led back out and hooked to the rope
to pull the rope to unload the wagon. A smaller rope was tied to the fork to pull the trolley to
the center of the barn where a piece was clamped
on the track and unlocked the fork and large pulley mechanism to drop it down so you could set the fork to unload the hay. After setting the fork the horse would pull the rope which raised
the fork and it's load of hay to the track where
it was then pulled toward the pulley at the end
of the barn. When the guy mowing away the hay
hollered trip it, I would yank the rope, and the fork would unlock the hay and the hay fell into the mow. A marker was set out on the horse's path so the driver wouldn't go to far. If the wagon stayed outside, and the fork came out the end of the barn to unload, it was a little differnt but you can probrobly figure
that out from this description.

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onefarmer

09-15-2006 19:17:13




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 Re: hay unloader - hay forks in reply to Dave Sherburne NY, 09-14-2006 17:04:09  
Yep that sounds like I remember and I'm 43. I used to run the 9n ford on the rope when I was about 5yrs. On ours the track came out the end of the barn



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Hugh MacKay

09-14-2006 18:41:11




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 Re: hay unloader - hay forks in reply to Dave Sherburne NY, 09-14-2006 17:04:09  
Dave: Very good for a young guy old enough to remember.



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Jimmy King

09-16-2006 02:36:52




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 Re: hay unloader - hay forks in reply to Hugh MacKay, 09-14-2006 18:41:11  
You guys are ahead of me will be 65 Nov 27, I really don't remember horses being used much on our farm, my Granddad and three of his sons were very good with horses, but my Dad hated them. I remember them using the hay forks but pulled them with a tractor, B Farmall. About 1950 Dad and his younger brother built a hay and grain elevator. It is still some where at my Uncles place, and he used it as late as 11 or 12 years ago to unload corn from an 18 wheeler. I don't know how long it is but one barn that was on my Great Granddad's farm is 40 by 40 by 40 and that elevator would stand at about a 45 Degree angle in the hood. OSHA would have a heart attack if they saw use using it. The tractor would be started, and we would step on to the slats and ride up to the hood then step out at the hood. when done, shut the tractor off a foot on each side and hands behind us on the rails and slide down.

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Hugh MacKay

09-17-2006 19:28:03




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 Re: hay unloader - hay forks in reply to Jimmy King, 09-16-2006 02:36:52  
Jimmy: I assume you are still able to make that slide. My neighbor has an 80' - 10" auger he's using to fill a 52' silo with grain. That auger looks quite flimsy when he's getting it in place. That thing looks like it would quite a good slide if you had good balance. I don't think you'd want to weigh over 50# though.

You mentioned using tractor on the pitching rope. I can remember using the horse but last few years we used the Farmall Cub. We had a wooden platform on Cub with 3-4 sacks on feed the give the Cub enough traction.

A neighbor had one of the tracks whereby wagon sat outside at end of barn. Barn was over 100' with full length track. They used the family Buick with 4 sacks of feed in the trunk. His wife drove it and did the pull backing. They had a flag they moved depending how far they wanted her to back. One day she backed over the flag, it caught on back bumper, thus she never saw it, and just kept backing. Almost took the carriage and fork of hay through far end of the barn. Quite an argument erupted between husband and wife over being able to back the Buick straight out the driveway, without running over the flag. I wasn't there but the story circulated around the community.

I remember another story about a farmer who's barn was right beside county road. He had always drove across the road pulling the rope. Gravel road, not a lot of traffic, thus he'd let the rope drop to ground once fork was on the carriage. Everyone knew him, they would slow down and drive over the rope. One day something on a vehicle caught the rope. That one caused quite a comotion in the hay loft.

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Dave Sherburne NY

09-15-2006 17:04:29




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 Re: hay unloader - hay forks in reply to Hugh MacKay, 09-14-2006 18:41:11  
64-- Sept. 25



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Hugh MacKay

09-15-2006 18:05:05




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 Re: hay unloader - hay forks in reply to Dave Sherburne NY, 09-15-2006 17:04:29  
Dave: I was 64 Aug. 24, now I know why your description sounded so familiar.

My neighbor a son of a Dutch Immigrant. His dad was within days of my dad in age. He grew up and farmed in Holland during the German occupation and after the war until about 1950. He wrote a book about his life. Even though he would have spoken Dutch, many of his sayings and expressions were identical to sayings and expressions I heard my dad use as a very young lad.

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