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Terhune

08-23-2006 16:18:49




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I picked up a Dearborn --Ford (on the tag)three point hitch manure loader. I am going to try to get it working by 3 point hitch only (I need to move waste hay (round bale). The original paint (I think) is red and it does have a serial # and model # on the tag. It also has what looks like small hydraulic cylinders that are completely rusted away and hoses gone....also has chain hooks for more height. It has a manual dump bucket (by rope I guess). The dump bucket has 5 spikes on it which are held in by a cotter key. Everything seems to work (got a little welding to do) but I have not mounted it on my tractor yet. One thing I failed to mention is that a full drawbar must be used for mounting to 3 pt. OK its your turn if you can help....I have been told it is about 40+ years old and any information --pictures--how it works---etc. etc. etc. would be helpful. thanks JIM in KY.

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Leroy

08-24-2006 05:34:20




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 Re: info on old 3 point loader in reply to Terhune, 08-23-2006 16:18:49  
They were made for the 8N tractor with the ears on the side of the differential on the same level as the pin that goes thru the top link rocker to hold that rocker on (NOT where the top link fastens) and the small cylinders fastened to a bracket under the differential (Same bracket as for factory swinging drawbar) and the cylinders were to fasten into the test port on the right side of the tractor and worked at the same time to give lifting power. The chains hooked onto the same bracket as the cylinders and are what gives you the lift. You could use it without the cylinders but would not have very much lifting capacity and yes it does have a rope trip. It would also fit the TO20 & TO30 Ferguson with those ears. Do not know if the TO35 -F35 or the Ford NAA had those ears. There was a model made to fit the 9N-2N tractors that did not have those eare and it had wide spaced arms that fastened to a bracket that bolted to the fender bolts between the axle and fender and a different bracket for the small cylinder mount that bolted where the PTO extension mounted. You do have to use the 11 hole straight drawbar to mount it. I just sold one this last mermorial day at Wapakoneta, Ohio that I had bought because I could not mount it on my 9N & 2N tractors. The top end of those cylinders fastened to the pin that fastenes the rockshaft arms to the lift rods for the 3 point arms

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Leroy

08-24-2006 14:00:38




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 Re: info on old 3 point loader in reply to Leroy, 08-24-2006 05:34:20  
I am back again, had to get to an appointment. The loader without using those booster cylinders will only have maybe 300-400# lift with possibly breakaway of 400-500#, with the boosters I would say possibly double the 400# breakaway. The loaders would only fit the 9N, 2N, NAA, 6XX, 800, 2000, 4 cylinder 4000, and the Ferguson TE20, TO20, TO30, TO35, F35 & F135 tractors and then depending on the mounts you have, With a lot of modification you might get them to mount on an Oliver 55 or a John Deere 420 with the dual touch-o-matic lift on the 3 point hitch that would work as the booster cylinders. Without the boosters hooked up it will be about useless but you could go by some new cylinders that you could adapt in if your old are so bad a hydrolic shop cannot repair them. Thet test port takes a special hard to find thread fitting on the Fords but some of the Fergusons use just a 3/8" pipe thread fitting in there. There are 3 holes in the lift bars on each side of the loader that you place the ends of the 11 hole drawbar in (For lift height adjustment) before you hook up the 3 point lift arms. Did I get you confused?

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Terhune

08-26-2006 03:47:35




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 Re: info on old 3 point loader in reply to Leroy, 08-24-2006 14:00:38  
Yep...I'm confused..so let me tell you what I did. First ..this equipment was given to me from a scrap pile but in working order with cylinders destroyed by rust and will not be used at all or replaced. All I need this for is to pick up waste hay and move it so the 400# lift range is fine. I have a 69 Ford 2000 and I am in the lower top link hole with a pin about 12 inches long which put the dog ears about 1 1/2 inches on either side of the top link holes (will use spacers to hold from sliding). Lower brackets are in the lower holes at the drawbar with the liftarms on the outside of the loader holes and then the pin is in the end of the drawbar to hold it on. When in this position...the bucket...due to the height of my tractor....has the spikes in too much of a downward position when the bucket is lowered to the ground (bucket is about 4 inches off the ground). I have removed both bolts on both upper pivots so I can adjust the bucket angle when lowered and the plan is to drill two new remounting holes in the upper pivot arm that is closest to the back of the tractor and replace the bolts. This will allow the bucket to be more level when lowered to the ground BUT it may not be real efficient as far as dumping using the pull rope unless the weight is mainly on the spikes. When the bucket is in the up position it is more level. I hope I have not confused you with my reply and thank you for your help. I think my main problem is that my tractor is too big for this old loader but I am going to try to make it work. What price did you get for your loader when you sold it?? Thanks again and I am still open to any suggestions.

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Leroy

08-26-2006 18:13:50




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 Re: info on old 3 point loader in reply to Terhune, 08-26-2006 03:47:35  
Your tractor is just a newer version of the NAA (Jubilee) and if you have the ears on the differential housing yhe holes in them should align with the hole fastened to the top of the differential housing that the rocker fastens to (DO NOT TRY TO FASTEN IN THE ROCKER) (MUST BE THE PIN THAT HOLDS THE ROCKER ON) and it is a fold in the middle pin so it will clear the fender when it is removed; about 15-18" long; If you try to hook in the rocker where the top link goes it will break something. I sold mine at a consignment auction with some other items and never checked price of each item. Just thought possibly the one I sold might have been the one you bought and if it would have been then I would have knowen the model. The ears on the differential housing control the side to side movement and you would not have any use or possibly be able to use any spacers. Can you send me a pick of your tractor and loader so I can see for sure what you have and if so that way I can get you on the right track to get it mounted as it sounds like you are trying to hook it up wrong. Leroy at [email protected]

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Terhune

08-27-2006 11:32:30




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 Re: info on old 3 point loader in reply to Leroy, 08-26-2006 18:13:50  
Leroy....you have mail....and I am going to take pictures after I send you this note. Will get them to you as soon as possible. I will not use the loader until I have it hooked up correctly. Thanks



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