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IA farmer

08-20-2006 23:12:25




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I'm losing some of my haying help next year and am wondering about putting a thrower on my 315 New Holland baler. I make a tight 50# bale that is 36" long. My first question is can I keep making the same size and weight of bales? How deformed are the bales after they come out of the rack? Will they be able to be stacked on a trailer without much trouble? Which thrower is better, a belt or pan? I've been baling for 30 years, just no throwers in the area. Thanks.

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Blue Buddy

08-21-2006 16:45:13




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 Re: Bale thrower in reply to IA farmer, 08-20-2006 23:12:25  
for a belt thrower there is a maximum length of bale, if the bale is too long, the belts will be spinning on the twines till it gets a real good hold of it to yank the tail end of a long bale out of the chamber, can wear right through a twine, used to be a whole lot of kickers around here, but they sure died off, heavy bales will fly, but will stress it more, and good used can be real tuff to find, NH ones were actually built by Deere, so lots of the parts will fit from deere, most baskets have a REALLY wide stance, so seldom tip over, if you never tip a wagon, yer never gonna tip a basket ( I know, never say never)but for one man operation, they are hard to beat, and no moving parts to speak of either

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phillip d

08-21-2006 16:23:05




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 Re: Bale thrower in reply to IA farmer, 08-20-2006 23:12:25  
we've had a thrower 124 since '76 and the thing always worked pretty decent.The bales can be made about as heavy as you would want.The wagons are a fairly big job to build but they last a long time.I've never seen a bale basket used before but they look realy good as well.If you do end up with a thrower,get the heaviest string as possible we use 9000 foot rolls and they are ok.phill



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Errin OH

08-21-2006 10:33:56




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 Re: Bale thrower in reply to IA farmer, 08-20-2006 23:12:25  
Had a bout of that myself this week. No help that is. I really don't care to pull a wagon any more as it affects the speed/feed rate which I can bale (when you run a fifty year old baler you have to feed it properly). We went to a self propeled hay wagon but that still requires two (driver/stacker). I had little over two hundered bales on the ground, no help and rain comming. Picking up a few, stop, stack, pickup a few more sucked. So I went and got the skid loader. Round up three or four and set them on the wagon. Get about 30 set on the wagon, stop, stack, do it again. Did it in about an hour with no help (SWEET). Bet your @$$ I am going to get me a graple. Not sure on the buncher as I would have to pull it behind the baler (???). I figure with a slight mod to the wagons, I could bale, pick up, load, unload, and put in the barn (ground floor) all most all my hay and never touch a bale.

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LE Smith (West Central MI

08-21-2006 09:38:04




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 Re: Bale thrower in reply to IA farmer, 08-20-2006 23:12:25  
WE have been running bale baskets for over 16 years now. Before that we ran the thrower (kicker) balers and wagons. Personally I would never go back to the thrower system, it is just not bale friendly, especially if one sells all your hay. We currently run (3) Pro-quality, (1) Forge-King and (1) Eazy-Trail. If the good features from the Pro-Quality and Eazy-Trail could be combined into one basket it would totally awesome!!! Don't know if Pro-Quality is still out there as I can not pull up any WEB address for them in many years now. Just get the special centering hitch or build one yourself and save a ton of money over buying a thrower. We run our B-baskets behind our NH316 and NH570 balers. We also have fairly rolling ground, no big issues. Only once in 16 years have I ever lifted a wheel or slid a basket. That was baling side hill on almost a 30 degree slope with the basket almost 90% full. I was pushing to finish the field when it happened, made the heart jump a little, but the baskets are "very very" stable in almost all conditions. Feel free to e-mail if more information is needed. Regards...

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RickL

08-21-2006 05:50:46




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 Re: Bale thrower in reply to IA farmer, 08-20-2006 23:12:25  
this is another one of those been ther edone it things,grew up with thr thrower units. Then in later years I switched to the bale basket waqgons by EZ_Trail and I would never go back to a thrower. Get you a bale basket wagon instead. Ran 3 of the units for over 10-12 years now do accumulator setup. But I really liked them. Give me a call for the tricks to using them the simple way. They do work and they will work no matter what you hear about them. The units I had are now being used in Ohio and he really likes them also. 319-257-6764

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Our Farmer

08-21-2006 05:47:36




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 Re: Bale thrower in reply to IA farmer, 08-20-2006 23:12:25  
I like the idea of that basket, but my ground is kind of hilly. I'm a little concerned about how stable that thing is when it starts to get full and a little topheavy.



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Billy NY

08-21-2006 05:37:27




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 Re: Bale thrower in reply to IA farmer, 08-20-2006 23:12:25  
My neighbor bought a 315 last year, with a thrower, belt I believe, the bales were loose and banana shaped, but tight enough to hold last year, I bought 600 bales from him that were baled by his 315 last year. This baler was not used extensively, kept inside so kind of a low hour unit I would suspect, he went through it prior to the season this year, not sure what he serviced on it, but this season so far I think he said and I saw his pole barn full, he's done 5000 bales without missing a knot, all thrown into the wagons and unloaded by hand. His bales this year are just like yours, I just bought all the 2nd cut he just baled and the bales seem fine having gone through the thrower. 50lb + or - and maybe longer than 3 foot. I acutally have photos of his bales, not time to post this morning.

No expert on balers here, but seeing the models seem to be the same and his has a thrower, I will see him this week and ask how his 315 with the thrower is working, seems to be doing great this year. He's an old school dairy farmer, been at it since the 50's, still does the small squares and also some big squares now.

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730virgil

08-21-2006 05:30:01




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 Re: Bale thrower in reply to IA farmer, 08-20-2006 23:12:25  
have you ever heard of a bale basket ? built by e-z trail of arthur il. web site www.e-trail.com 2 wheel trailer uses action of plunger to push bales into trailer . don't need a bale thrower with these . back of trailer opens up don't climb in wagon fighting with bales to get them off . friend has one his dad bales most of his small square bales . will bale trailer full , drive to barn dumps load and goes back to feild never unhooks trailer until they are done baling . another guy near here had bale conveyor laid on ground feeding into one going in barn . dumps bales on both sides .

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