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MASS KP

08-08-2006 15:11:19




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could someone tell me where to find a good pic. of a bush hog hooked up to a ford 9n. I'm new at this and i want to hook up a mower to my tractor and don't know what i need. Thank you. KEVIN




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Oldmax

08-21-2006 20:27:11




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 Re: bush hog in reply to MASS KP, 08-08-2006 15:11:19  
I have a 1715 Ford/New Holand 27 HP I use a 5' kingkutter " Hayside " brush hog and I mow in 5 th gear on the flat & 3 & 4 on the side of the hills tractor has 9 speed top gear is rated at 12 MPH so in 5 th I am doing about 6 MPH in med to tall grass , have to go to 2 gear in johnson grass .



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KBird

08-11-2006 18:24:56




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 Re: bush hog in reply to MASS KP, 08-08-2006 15:11:19  
You could go to google.com.

KBird



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Jerry (AL)

08-09-2006 05:05:49




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 Re: bush hog in reply to MASS KP, 08-08-2006 15:11:19  
The Ford 9N doesn't have stable position control and will tend to wander. Most people who use bush hogs with them usually either put chains on them to regulate the height or some go for a "Zane Thang" which will add stable position control to the 9N. They tend to wander a bit on the height adjustment setting.



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pilgrim

08-08-2006 21:40:15




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 Re: bush hog in reply to MASS KP, 08-08-2006 15:11:19  
I have a NAA ford and use a 5ft brush cutter on it, and rod in smiths is right aboute not stopping. With a little practice though you can run them saftley. One trick is to take the pto out of gear. Then wait for the blade to stop turning.If the blade is turning you will grind the gears.Just practice with it in a open area and see what it is like, and you will be fine. Good luck and happy mowing



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Rod in Smiths Falls, ON,

08-08-2006 17:13:43




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 Re: bush hog in reply to MASS KP, 08-08-2006 15:11:19  
Speaking as a fellow-newbie, I think you'll figure out a way to hook it up.

What you won't expect, however, is the flywheel effect of the mower's blade. It is connected by gears directly to the tractor's drive wheels and get this: your clutch and brake will not stop you until the mower quits turning. This can produce embarrassing and even dangerous situations ranging from stopping halfway through the garage door to driving off a cliff.

The device called "over-running connector" will not mean much to you at this stage. What it is, though, is a built-in ratchet on the power take-off shaft which lets the blade on the mower turn without propelling the rest of the tractor along with it. You owe it to your family to add one of these before you go any further with your experiment.

The part you are asking about is called a top link. It is an adjustable, threaded bar with eye-type ends held by large pins to the upper link on the tractor and to the frame above the bush hog, most likely tethered by a chain to the back of the mower. Watch this A frame. If it pivots it will like to fall forward and hit you on the knee while you are hitching up the rest of it. Also, avoid the temptation to put a length of chain in place of the top link until you get set up. A bush hog is basically a large flywheel with cutters, and if it hits a concealed boulder and goes airborne, guess whose head and shoulders it hits if the top link doesn't stop it? You can't push on a chain.

On the frame of the mower, the two pins about two feet apart, sticking out horizontally, fit into the two eyes on the moveable part of the three point hitch on the tractor. Little pins on rings called lynch pins keep them from falling off again. They are available at the same place you got the over-running connector.

The power take-off shaft runs from the gearbox of the mower to the back of the tractor. The end on the tractor might have a cover to protect the operator. Hooking up a pto shaft is a black art perfected only by veteran farmers. Be patient and lubricate, as necessary. It should click on securely, but don't forget to put the over-running connector on before you forget about it.

An old gray tractor with a bush hog is an inexpensive and very useful piece of equipment, but it is much scarier to operate than the same implement on a slightly more modern tractor with lower gears and live p.t.o. My 1960 Massey Ferguson 35 goes into battle at 1 mph in low gear at pto speed. The 1951 Ferguson TEA20 (like your N) it replaced clocked almost 6 mph in the same situation. Scary fast in tall weeds.

Another thing to watch for is dust and weed seeds accumulating in the radiator of the tractor. Wash it out with a hose periodically. You should be able to see through the vanes on the radiator. Overheating is not good.

Mow early and often. Best wishes.

Rod

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MASS KP

08-08-2006 19:15:36




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 Re: bush hog in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 08-08-2006 17:13:43  
Thanks for the indept info. looks like i realy need to be carefull. Thanks again



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morningwood

08-08-2006 18:21:54




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 Re: bush hog in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 08-08-2006 17:13:43  
Rod, Not that familiar with MF, how much PTO HP do you have to pull a bush hog 6 MPH ??? and what size bush hog are you running ???

I have a 59 Ford with 47 PTO HP and tried to run my 5 footer at approx 3.7 MPH ( 3 low ) through some pretty tall weeds ( 5 feet ) and she was wanting noting to do with it. She does great in 2 low at approx 2.7 MPH.

I guess I am a little jealous as going faster would cut my mowing time down and cut my $3 a gallon fuel bill down at the same time.

Thanks for the info,

Scott

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Rod in Smiths Falls, ON,

08-09-2006 04:28:26




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 Re: bush hog in reply to morningwood, 08-08-2006 18:21:54  
I agree that 6 mph is way too fast for a rotary cutter. I was making the point that the old gray Ferguson was geared too high for safe bush-hogging. Its first gear seems to have been matched to that of a draft horse's walking gait, and with the engine wound up for torque, 6 mph was about as slow as it would go.

Thinking of it, that seems very fast. I wonder if I had my gps set to kilometers, instead of miles, when I made the measurement? I don't think so, though. It was a very long-legged tractor, and a hair-raising ride through long grass and boulders in the pastures.

I can run my MF 35 diesel on a 5' Waco Whistler in 3 low at about 3 mph in long grass, but while the 37 hp engine has lots of power, the quality of cut suffers. For the very heavy stuff I drop down to second.

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morningwood

08-09-2006 08:58:41




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 Re: bush hog in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 08-09-2006 04:28:26  
Rod,

Guess I didn't realize that the gearing the MF was that high.

The funny thing with my situation is that I have a 25HP JD and 53HP Ford ( engine HP ) and I bush hog at about the same speed with both of them. I figured that with more PTO HP that I would be able to bush hog faster. I am usually bush hogging mostly a mix of weeds and fescue grass.

Like I said in my previous post she didn't want anyting to do with going fast. I plan on getting a bigger hog ( 7 - 8') next year for the Ford so that should save me some time vs going faster.

Scott

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Ken Macfarlane

08-09-2006 07:44:25




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 Re: bush hog in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 08-09-2006 04:28:26  
With 42 hp I can't tell the 5 ft hog is behind me no matter what I'm cutting. Even when the thing is sitting in mud chopping mud. The fuel gage tells me hogging long thin grasses uses double the fuel of chopping weeds though. I usually go 7 mph in familiar ground, 2-3 in unfamiliar ground. Hit 3 separate big cinder blocks in unfamiliar ground a couple of years ago and that slowed me down.



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