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mgm

08-07-2006 06:29:52




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I cut my hay about 2 weeks ago. The weather did not cooperate therefore I raked it a week ago. And then my neighbor was going to custom bale it for me the day of raking. Well for reasons unknown to me he never baled it, therefore I have hay raked out in the field and now it is growing away. What should I do in this case?




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jcee in colorado

08-12-2006 22:43:40




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 Re: hay problem in reply to mgm, 08-07-2006 06:29:52  
I hear ya. Had the same problem last year with a guy who was suppose to help me. I ended up using a hay buck and piled the hay in a corner of the field. Still need to see if the grinders will come for that little pile. I figure I lost 1oo plus bales @ ~2.50 per bale on that go round Am learning that the good old days of neighbor helping neighbor are gone. Sad but true. These days a guy has to rely on himself more than ever.

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jfunk

08-08-2006 22:19:35




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 Re: hay problem in reply to mgm, 08-07-2006 06:29:52  
what is bushhogging i'm not familiar with this term. thanks



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CharleyFarmall

08-07-2006 16:32:40




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 Re: hay problem in reply to mgm, 08-07-2006 06:29:52  
Caution with bushhogging all that hay. My neighbor sold his farm and didn't need the hay off my fields anymore. Since he was baling and I didn't have the equipment we bushogged almost 30 acres. That was first cutting. I went and got the equipment I needed because I wasn't going to have that happen again. Cutting this time around wasn't all that easy because the sickle and haybine would catch some of the old hay that was bushogged. I had to raise the height some so the field is a bit irregular. That said, saturday my wife and I put up our first 165 bales ourselves and are glad we are in control. Now if only the weather would cooperate....

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Hay DR

08-08-2006 05:27:02




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 Re: hay problem in reply to CharleyFarmall, 08-07-2006 16:32:40  
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Chick

08-07-2006 21:32:13




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 Re: hay problem in reply to CharleyFarmall, 08-07-2006 16:32:40  
That is the trouble with a sickle bar. A Kuhn Cutter, or any of the disc mowers, won't have that problem. You are better off going ahead and burning it.



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BillyinStoughton

08-07-2006 09:43:34




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 Re: hay problem in reply to mgm, 08-07-2006 06:29:52  
There's not a ton you can do with it now. But you can bale it to get it off the field and spend a lot of labor...or if you can have it chopped and just blow it back onto the field.

Better luck to you the next time around!

Billy



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El Toro

08-07-2006 09:02:19




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 Re: hay problem in reply to mgm, 08-07-2006 06:29:52  
There's nothing like having your own equipment then you can do it at your own convenience. Hal



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j cook (iowa)

08-07-2006 08:22:53




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 Re: hay problem in reply to mgm, 08-07-2006 06:29:52  
Way back in 1965, my father discovered that if you really want to put up hay, you simply HAVE to have your own equipment. You simply cannot rely on other people to be available, WHEN YOU NEED THEM on a regular basis. It is possible to find someone to put up your hayfields, but they will almost always give your fields priority AFTER they have done their own.

With reliable older new Holland and John Deere rakes, mowers and balers being out there in such large numbers and at such reasonable prices (I'm not talking late model ---under 20 years old here) there is simply no good reason for not getting your own baler.

The straw that broike the camel's back in my father's case was the time the neighbor cut the hay one afternoon and baled it the following morning. After having to throw out all of that hay, it was already heating by the afternoon it was baled, dad went out and bought a JD14T. That was in 1965 and the baler was 10 years old.

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Ron-MO

08-07-2006 07:52:03




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 Re: hay problem in reply to mgm, 08-07-2006 06:29:52  
Bob is right....it is junk. I had 3 people in one year do the same thing. The first waited two weeks to tell me he did not want the hay, found another guy and nearly a month later he never showed, then found another and I am still waiting on him three years later. Bush hogged the fields that year in the fall. Bought a square baler the next spring, and now a round baler this year and do it myself. I depend on no one now and figure that if I want it done I had better do it myself. I know there are dependable people out there, but I never found one that year. To make matters worse those 3 never called to tell me they were not coming. I either had to call them, or just accept the fact that they were not showing up.

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BobMo

08-07-2006 07:35:06




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 Re: hay problem in reply to mgm, 08-07-2006 06:29:52  
Rake the windrows together and burn it or bale it and burn it just to get it off the field.
If you can't or don't want to do that and you are not going to bale again this year you might run a bush hog over the windrows and try to spread it back on the field. It's just junk.
I'd also try and get a more dependable guy to do my baleing.



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TimS

08-07-2006 12:45:11




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 Re: hay problem in reply to BobMo, 08-07-2006 07:35:06  
Brushogging it might work...

I have seen the same problem at the in-laws, folks who had promised to bale just never showed up, never called, nothing. Drive by their house, they are home, in the house, all the tractors parked. They just couldn't be bothered to follow thru and do what they said they would....

So my theory is very much get your own equipment and do it yourself.....

Sorry you are having problems though.

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ken Macfarlane

08-07-2006 17:44:20




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 Re: hay problem in reply to TimS, 08-07-2006 12:45:11  
Being someone who has asked permission to hay fields then not shown up, I have to write in my defence.

#1 my fields come first, I know what quality the hay is and generally they are closer to home
#2 Equipment breaks, a lot. The tedder has ceased functioning 3 times this year, the rake twice, the mower once, the baler twice.
#3 People, I can't cut hay if I have no one to put it up. We do small squares by hand off the ground, and for a 3-5 person show where half + is female, 500 bales is a big day.
#4 But the number one reason, weather. No I can't put hay up in one day. Despite what you see the sileage guys doing, I can't do that. They are not interested in your field because it is rocky small and has boggy bits. You are lucky you are getting it cut for free! I would rather you pay me to bushhog it.

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paul

08-07-2006 19:49:37




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 Re: hay problem in reply to ken Macfarlane, 08-07-2006 17:44:20  
You bid on the job, you need to get it done. Just how it is. I understand delays & problems, but leaving windrows sit for 2 weeks is a terrible thing, you are ruining this cutting & the next; as well as killing off strips of hay under the windrows.

Delays happen with hay.

Once you spoke for it, it is your responsibility to finish it. If it has become worthless you still need to deal with the issue you created.

--->Paul

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Sid

08-07-2006 19:31:48




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 Re: hay problem in reply to ken Macfarlane, 08-07-2006 17:44:20  
"Being someone who has asked permission to hay fields then not shown up, I have to write in my defence" It seems obvious that you do not have reliable equipment and or help so why ask for permission to cut it in the first place. I have to disagree that you have a valid defense for not following through on your agreement. Unless you notified the people as soon as you saw you weren't going to be able to follow through on the agreement. But to just not show up without calling is not right.

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Ken Macfarlane

08-08-2006 05:37:53




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 Re: hay problem in reply to Sid, 08-07-2006 19:31:48  
Oh I call if I can't make it, and I don't cut if I can't bale it. Standing hay can be bushhogged, grown through hay doesn't ted well.

This is not a case of quality hayfields here, I don't make money on it and they don't have animals or a use for hay. The objective is to get them cut down.

The reason I cut them is no one else will cut them. I can't see how someone can expect me to be at their low quality field to take hay off it when my good fields with money making hay are ready. I don't tell them any different. I understand they want a nice looking field around their house but pay me to bushhog it is you want that look with out the trouble of waiting for haying.

Re: the equipment, when your ground is rough and rocky, things break freqently. Yes our tedder is near beat but the other stuff is in relatively good shape.

Every year we dig out more rocks, and every year the frost tosses new ones up to the top. These are TV set sized rocks, not little guys.

Also for those not familiar with eastern Canada, it is really wet, we have had a total of 5 two day spells free of rain this hay season, and only two of them have been accurately predicted by the weatherman.

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