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Hey,Kansas,Love that NH Balewagon

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Willy P

08-06-2006 18:26:13




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Got the NH Balewagon going and what a nice machine,don't want to see a accumalator. I don't know how we got by without it like a cell phone and a computor,life without it.But I do have some problem stacking with it. I do have the manual but how do you make your tie tier? and do you use the stack poles to hold it while the pushoff feet push it away? Seems like I was having trouble raising the stack to dump and the top bales would fall,maybe I was not close enough to the stack or the wall and do you ease it up real slow or do you pull the handle and let it go up full speed? I love it but need some practice and advice on stacking Thanks

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Kansas

08-08-2006 18:51:43




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 Re: Hey,Kansas,Love that NH Balewagon in reply to Willy P, 08-06-2006 18:26:13  
Hi...well I don't have any pics...my daughter was gonna take some...I will one of these days... tying...here's how I do it...let me ask you this...are you loading 7 tiers?? mine will hold 70 bales with no ties. I make two ties...and end up hauling 66 bales to the barn. I load three 10 bale packs. Then I load 6 bales (you've got to keep count...LOL...) and then just as the 8th bale comes on the 1st table, I stop the pto (I'm loading with a D17 Allis, so when you push the clutch in the pto stops). Get off with the pto off and everything off...I put 1 bale longwise on the right side of the second table...laying FLAT....I make my ties FLAT...all the other bales are on edge...then...another bale flat and shoved over the arm that trips the second table...and then another bale flat on the left side...and then bales down the middle...flat and lenghwise...and two more longwise...and then the last two...one longwise and one crosswise...like a letter H...with the center filled with crosswise bales...does that make sense?? If I'm on really rough ground...I'll take a piece of plastic twine and tie the longwise bales together....H...like both halves of the H tied together..this just keeps the stack neater... Ok...if you're still with me...LOL I've learned a few things...always stack your stacks from right to left...like the first stack should be....as you sit on the tractor to your right as you look back....you'll be amazed...at how much closer your 2nd stack will be to the first...if you've got 4 loads..then stack two side to side and then the third in front of the first My biggest trick is this....get your wife to come out and watch you back up and tell you what you need to do...I'm dead dog serious about this...she's is the biggest part of a good stack!!! When you are about to push off...be about a foot from the first stack...hold slightly on the tractor brakes...and then just let it push off....as your wife watches...if something starts to go wrong she can stop you and you can readjust... Bales falling off the stack...this will only be a concern on the first stack...since you're only a foot away from previous stacks...I've got a neighbor here...he made some ropes...with stakes...like tent stakes...and before he dumps, he X's the load....you need 4 stakes, and 2 ropes...each rope has to stakes on the end...measure to fit between the ends of the X...this will keep the bales from falling....does that make sense??? email me if I can be of an other help...I'm sitting here smiling...probably what I've said is a clear as mud!!! I'm just a wanna be part timer....and have a great othewise job....so what we do is mostly for fun, my wife is an artist-teacher....and she LOVES my stackwagon (she used to be the driver loading hay with a ferris wheel loader) Its worked good for us...I wish I had a better barn, but no biggie...I'll break my stackwagon stacks down and restack to make more room if need be and to gain enough room to keep all my junk under cover...we're doing it for fun, but playing for keeps, and its sure been great for us...holler if I can be of any help...I'm gonna have to learn how to use a digital camera....

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Willy P

08-08-2006 19:51:14




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 Re: Hey,Kansas,Love that NH Balewagon in reply to Kansas, 08-08-2006 18:51:43  
Thanks alot for that good info,I had to reread it 2 or 3 times but now I understand it,you put 2 length wise on each side and then 4 down the middle laying flat and I may make something like your neighbor did to hold the bales while unloading,want take long to hook them on and alot better than stacking by hand or paying someone to do it. Thanks again



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Kansas

08-09-2006 03:22:00




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 Re: Hey,Kansas,Love that NH Balewagon in reply to Willy P, 08-08-2006 19:51:14  
One more thing...about the rope and pins...you'll put them on, in the barn, right before you start to unload, this old neighbor of mine actually uses pins he made and instead of rope he uses baling wire, he leaves them on---he's go LOTS of them he's made up. I wish you could see this guys stackwagon---he made it himself, its amazing, he took a old ford truck like a 68 F600 and copied a new holland self propelled bale wagon. Its amazing, it just works like a charm. I might add a cautionary note, this is from a lady that owns a ranch and had a 1049 stackwagon Kids---and playing on hay, unless you've really really really got good stacks, don't let kids play on the stacks.

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Kansas

08-09-2006 03:15:16




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 Re: Hey,Kansas,Love that NH Balewagon in reply to Willy P, 08-08-2006 19:51:14  
You've got it!! I hope you knew what I meant about using twine to tie the length wise bales together...I only do it if I'm on rough ground or hilly ground...when you've made the tie and that tier is up on the load rack, the top 2 outside bales have a tendency to fall away from the rest...so if you just tie them together before you raise the 2nd table...it just works better...the down side is you've got to cut the twine as you take them from the stack. I might add one more thing, having uniform length bales, and bales with good weight will help to. Like I said before, I just love my balewagon, it saves so much work. Lots of times if my wife isn't busy I'll have her bale and I can start picking up, and that makes things go faster to. She kind of gets a kick out of baling, and I'm in the hayfield with her so if she has any trouble I can get her going again, without her having to do much. Good Luck, and enjoy!

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BobMo

08-06-2006 21:12:51




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 Re: Hey,Kansas,Love that NH Balewagon in reply to Willy P, 08-06-2006 18:26:13  
Thats funny because I have a bale wagon and an accumulator and haven't touched the bale wagon in 3 years and 10,000 bales. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
I can tell you you will always have problem with stacking but, you will get better at it.....Good luck



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Cliff Neubauer

08-07-2006 10:09:42




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 Re: Hey,Kansas,Love that NH Balewagon in reply to BobMo, 08-06-2006 21:12:51  
What model bale wagon and what brand of accumulator are you using? We have an old 1034 bale wagon that needs some work (hasn't been used in about 12 years) and we aren't sure if we should spend some money to get it going or go with an accumulator. I can see advantages to both ways and the more I think about it the more confused I get about which way to go. I'm tempted to get the bale wagon going since we already have it and it's not worth much the way it is and then get a 15 bale grapple for the loader so we could have the best of both systems.

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RickL

08-07-2006 11:12:13




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 Re: Hey,Kansas,Love that NH Balewagon in reply to Cliff Neubauer, 08-07-2006 10:09:42  
yes that would work have a grapple for the bale wagon. I run accumulator and really like it now. I have way to many hills for the wagon unit to work very good. I like the versatlity of the grapple accumulator system. Can load others in the field etc etc etc. They are like asnything mechanical thou you need to learn how to set them.



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Cliff Neubauer

08-07-2006 16:50:59




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 Re: Hey,Kansas,Love that NH Balewagon in reply to RickL, 08-07-2006 11:12:13  
We never had a problem with the bale wagon on hills once you got used to them. The problem we ran into with the bale wagon is there just aren't any around here so finding somebody who knows how to work on them was next to impossible but with forums like this that's not the issue it once was. The other downside to the bale wagon is road time and you need barns built for the job which we have but they are now used for machinery.

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RickL

08-08-2006 05:11:36




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 Re: Hey,Kansas,Love that NH Balewagon in reply to Cliff Neubauer, 08-07-2006 16:50:59  
Like I said before they both seem to have ther place,just not for me cause of my steep hills,and way to much travel ime with small loads. I don't leave the field unless I have 240 or 256 to a load loaded. Way less trips and it works for me in fact set up now that day of baling nothing is ever unloade that day it is just all put on wheels and taken care of later.



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Chick

08-06-2006 23:15:44




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 Re: Hey,Kansas,Love that NH Balewagon in reply to BobMo, 08-06-2006 21:12:51  
I have a friend who has one of the larger pull type bale wagons, and he doesn't have any problem with stacking. I think it has auto tie on it too. I just picked up a Bale Wagon, but have not had time to put it to use.



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Chick

08-06-2006 19:29:53




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 Re: Hey,Kansas,Love that NH Balewagon in reply to Willy P, 08-06-2006 18:26:13  
Who in Kansas did you buy your bale wagon from?



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Willy P

08-07-2006 06:18:54




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 Re: Hey,Kansas,Love that NH Balewagon in reply to Chick, 08-06-2006 19:29:53  
No I didn't buy it in Kansas,there was someone on here that went by the name Kansas that has a 1030 and was very helpful. Thanks



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Kansas

08-08-2006 04:04:06




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 Re: Hey,Kansas,Love that NH Balewagon in reply to Willy P, 08-07-2006 06:18:54  
Hi. Well I'm on my way to work right now, just saw your post, so I don't have time to go into detail, but I know what you're talking about. I make 2 tie tiers...and tier 3 and 6....I'll try and get a pic of one of my stack and post back tonight with it.



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