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do plungers and needles mix well?

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mike kinsella

08-06-2006 00:02:20




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Got latch sorted on nh276- was a seized pivot-thanks to respondents.Have heard the horror stories of broken needles etc but i thought i would cycle machine so plunger went into chamber as far as it goes and see how the holes on the base that allow the needles into the chamber compared.I was expecting the plunger to go way past the holes but It looked to me that the design of the plunger would allow the needles through --that is 2 big grooved out sections allowing needle clearance.Is this a figment of my imagination?

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RJ-AZ

08-07-2006 07:20:03




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 Re: do plungers and needles mix well? in reply to mike kinsella, 08-06-2006 00:02:20  
The plunger is at full stroke holding the bale under compression when the needles come through delivering the twine/wire to the knotter/twister.
The tying/twiting has to take place in the 90deg cycle of the plunger starting the backstroke. So the needle do pass through the slots.
When the timing is off the needles can come up in front of the plunger load of hay and that"s what takes out the needles. Needles coming up to late in the cyle can also be damaged by the compressed bale spring back on them. This will bend them and brake them on the next cycle.
Hope this helps. I went to a Hesston school back in the 80"s where they had a training aid that would slo-mo the whole cycle.

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Chick

08-06-2006 20:43:23




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 Re: do plungers and needles mix well? in reply to mike kinsella, 08-06-2006 00:02:20  
The shear bolt incident, is probably the most common cause of broken needles. You must bring the needles back to home position, anytime you have to replace the shear bolt.



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pilgrim

08-06-2006 18:29:08




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 Re: do plungers and needles mix well? in reply to mike kinsella, 08-06-2006 00:02:20  
We have a NH 310 baler and some years back I did not reackt to a thicker spot in the windrow and pluged up the baler and scheered the bolt.After the bolt was replaced I gave it a try and Some how the needels were up and I sheered them both off. Several hours and iF I remember right 100$$ later I was back to baling. I guess the moral of the story is when ever making any changes on your square baler, cycle it threw at least one cycle by hand if possiable. And make sure all is in time.

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mike kinsella

08-06-2006 10:23:10




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 Re: thanks jim in reply to mike kinsella, 08-06-2006 00:02:20  
thanks jim that explains a lot-gosh i should have thought of that, i have spent the past two weeks on and off renovating this machine-must be getting real tired!!!!



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Tx Jim

08-06-2006 03:18:45




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 Re: do plungers and needles mix well? in reply to mike kinsella, 08-06-2006 00:02:20  
All small square balers have the two slots in plungerhead for needles to pass up to get to tying system. When needles get out of time plungerhead has hay in front blocking access to slots so hay actually breaks/bends needles. Tx Jim



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