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Montgomery wards running gear?

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Dave from MN

08-03-2006 05:08:00

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I just picked one up cheap. Owner (in his 90's) said he bought it right after the was (WWII) were these any good, or bad? He kinda had a tear in his eye when I pulled out with it. Said it was his "Pride and Joy". What color should it be repainted. I want to refurbish all the equipment i purchased from him.

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Farmall450man

08-04-2006 06:40:08

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Re: Montgomery wards running gear? in reply to Dave from MN, 08-03-2006 05:08:00

The Wards running gears were most likely made by Electric Wheel from WW2 through the mid 70's. You should be able to interchange parts from a lot of different brands - Sears, etc. Ususally the steering arms and the tie-rod took a beating. But they can be straightened and with a little work the toe-in can be set up to get it to trail like it is supposed to. Bearings and wheels should be easy to find. A good shop should be able to replace bent spindles. Just make sure that the box is secured to only one of the axles. The other axle must be able to float. If you don't, you'll bend a spindle.

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charley hellickson

08-03-2006 22:39:19

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Re: Montgomery wards running gear? in reply to Dave from MN, 08-03-2006 05:08:00

hi guys. i am 63 years old. all of the wards wagon gears I have seen, the low load ones, were red with white pin stipes on the axle housings with white wheels. i have seen a couple of them with green wheels. I have seen quite a few on our club auction near Marshalltown Ia. used to be a big wards store in Marshalltown. just saw one of those wards wood flair boxes not long ago at the Carroll Ia. auction I go to all the time. charley.

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MN Scott

08-03-2006 20:46:15

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Re: Montgomery wards running gear? in reply to Dave from MN, 08-03-2006 05:08:00

I've got two of them under homemade barge boxes. My dad and uncle bought them new and made the boxes. For the first several years they dumped them with an A frame and hydraulic jack, lots of work but easier than shoveling them off. Later they installed hydraulic hoists. I'll have to take a look tomorrow but I think they are a dull red color with pinstripes. They also have the dull green wheels that Allan mentioned. The steering is well woren but overall they have stood up well considering the thousands of tons of square hay bales, ear corn, oats, logs and any number of things they have transported over the years.

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Dean in iowa

08-03-2006 19:48:12

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Re: Montgomery wards running gear? in reply to Dave from MN, 08-03-2006 05:08:00

I restored one this winter. It is a wards gear with a wards hoist and wards varnished flair box. If you want I can e-mail you a pic. There is also a picture of it in the YT implement gallery

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Dave from MN

08-03-2006 09:37:31

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Re: Montgomery wards running gear? in reply to Dave from MN, 08-03-2006 05:08:00

Thanks guys, kinda funny, the owner was telling me how when his brother got out of the army and came back to the states he bought a new car and traded the car tires for the ones one the running gear.

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dboll

08-03-2006 09:13:57

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Re: Montgomery wards running gear? in reply to Dave from MN, 08-03-2006 05:08:00

During ww2 6.00x16 tires were hard to get for car's so some guys bought MW gears, put the tires on their car's and parked the gear until tires were available! Not all MW's were lo-loads, some had a drop spindles, they trail decent if in good shape, an old Electric look's top be the same

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IaGary

08-03-2006 06:05:04

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Re: Montgomery wards running gear? in reply to Dave from MN, 08-03-2006 05:08:00

Theres a picture of one on equipmentlocator.com.

Tried to bring it over here but wouldn't upload.

Has the colors I mentioned below.

The rear right tire is the correct color.

Gary

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Allan In NE

08-03-2006 06:28:24

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Re: Montgomery wards running gear? in reply to IaGary, 08-03-2006 06:05:04

Here ya go Gary,

Gotta remember that those colors have been fading for 60 years. :>)

Allan

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IaGary

08-03-2006 06:44:15

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Re: Montgomery wards running gear? in reply to Allan In NE, 08-03-2006 06:28:24

Mornin Allan

Yeah I thought about the fade part after I read your post but I still think the one we had when I was a kid was orange.

It would've been about 10 years old at the time.

And I know it had green pin stripes.

How did you get that picture over here?

Gary

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Allan In NE

08-03-2006 07:19:19

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Re: Montgomery wards running gear? in reply to IaGary, 08-03-2006 06:44:15

I downloaded it to my machine, worked it over, resized it and then saved it as a jpg. Then I put it on another server so it would load here.

Yeah, they weren't "in your face red" like a Farmall color and certainly did have a bit of an orange overtone.

Allan

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IaGary

08-03-2006 11:26:45

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Re: Montgomery wards running gear? in reply to Allan In NE, 08-03-2006 07:19:19

Allan you may be right again.

Just stopped at a sweetcorn stand and there wagon was wards gear and it was closer to red than then the one I remembered.

Gary

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Allan In NE

08-03-2006 05:43:50

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Re: Montgomery wards running gear? in reply to Dave from MN, 08-03-2006 05:08:00

Hi Dave,

My dad bought two of those running gears in the very early fifties. Good ol' wagons with everyday run of the mill automotive ball bearings in the hubs.

They were painted all red with some white pin-striping across the outside face of the axles. Wheels were painted a dull green color. Kind of an Oliver tractor type green.

Allan

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RustyFarmall

08-03-2006 06:47:44

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Re: Montgomery wards running gear? in reply to Allan In NE, 08-03-2006 05:43:50

Allan, that's how I remember the one that we had, also, across the rear bolster it said "wards lo-load"

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Allan In NE

08-03-2006 07:21:18

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Re: Montgomery wards running gear? in reply to RustyFarmall, 08-03-2006 06:47:44

Do you remember what they cost new? Probably around $150?

Allan

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Leroy

08-03-2006 05:55:07

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Re: Montgomery wards running gear? in reply to Allan In NE, 08-03-2006 05:43:50

Some of the Wards gears from the 40's had straight roller bearings instead of the automotive type bearings. Years ago my Uncle (Passed away many year ago) had one with the straight roller bearings that went bad, he found a piece of pipe the same size as the bearing and put that in and worked for years. He did't do road travel tho.

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IaGary

08-03-2006 05:37:57

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Re: Montgomery wards running gear? in reply to Dave from MN, 08-03-2006 05:08:00

Dave most Montgomery Ward gears I've seen are a lite orange almost peach colored with green pin stripes.

The rims were green also.

Green was just a lighter green than Oliver green.

Hope this helps.

Gary

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