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NH851 baler questions

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CharlieLCDR

07-30-2006 05:58:07




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Retireing farmer has an 851 for $1000. will a AC D17 pull this baler? My D17 has two hydraulic hoses for double acting cylinder but the baler has 4 hoses. One set for the baler gate and one for tieing. Is there any way to get around this without reworking the hydraulics on my tractor. What are pros and cons for this baler?

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Bill in Iowa

08-01-2006 00:32:50




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 Re: NH851 baler questions in reply to CharlieLCDR, 07-30-2006 05:58:07  
My experience with an 851 baler is from watching my neighbor own and operate one. I bought alot of bales from him and he would bale for me also before I bought my own baler. The bales were rather light and not very tight. They rarely weighed 1000 lbs. and would go egg-shaped after sitting a few months. I would think $500.00 is plenty for a used 851 baler. The electric divider valve mentioned earlier is sometimes called a "Fosse (Fasse?) Valve". It is attached to your battery and hydraulic system, and allows you to run 2 remote systems (4hoses), one at a time, when your tractor only has a single hydraulic block (2 hoses). I had to buy one of these valves when I bought a JD 510 baler with hydrualic tie and my tractor had only 1 dual hyd. outlet. It worked OK but had to remember to flip the switch next to me when I wanted to tie a bale, or open/close the bale gate.

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old

07-30-2006 10:06:08




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 Re: NH851 baler questions in reply to CharlieLCDR, 07-30-2006 05:58:07  
D-17 will pull it but it will not have a lot of extra HP to spare. I know people that pull an 850 in my area with one and they get by but thats about it. As far as the tie part you can take off the hyd set up and go with either an eletric set up or a hand set up both where options on most of them. My 850 is eletic tie. As far as the price is might be a little on the high side unless it is in top shape. In my area going price for an 850 is around $500 and I don't think the 851 goes for mush if any more

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Nebraska Cowman

07-30-2006 06:29:38




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 Re: NH851 baler questions in reply to CharlieLCDR, 07-30-2006 05:58:07  
You can add an electric divider valve to switch back and forth for tying and dumping the bale. But I'd think the D17 would be not any too much tractor, besides your seating is low and you are going to eat a lot of dust. The 851 was a good baler in it's day. The rear drive floor chains were an improvement over the 850. The 855 discontinued the high maintenence floor chains altogether and was the climax of the chainers. $1000 is a lot of money for an 851, I'd want it to be in real good shape. It's easy to spend 2-3 thousand on chains.

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