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Don-Wi

07-29-2006 12:46:55




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General question here- We just got our Hesston 1014+2 hydra swing this year and we are looking at cutting our oats ahead of the combine with it. I know the auger is gonna knock a little extra grain off, but what I'm wondering is, has anybody else done it? It'll be cheaper than "borrowing" our neighbors s-p JD and having something break down again.

If it has a heavy dew on it, how does it go? I have night time hours anyway so cutting at night isn't a problem for me.

Otherwise they'll do it standing, but they leave the head as high as possible, leaving the stubble which chokes out the alfalfa underneath.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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bubba 2

07-29-2006 22:38:02




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 Re: cutting oats in reply to Don-Wi, 07-29-2006 12:46:55  
Late nite thinking Donovan: How about cutting the bottom out of an old combine feererhouse floor and dropping the oats on the ground that way?Idle the engine back so the auger wouldn't rip out the oats? Naw, I like your idea better.



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Leland

07-29-2006 16:47:40




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 Re: cutting oats in reply to Don-Wi, 07-29-2006 12:46:55  
We used a 1209 JD moco and all we done was remove the top roller crimper and we had great luck with the oats ,we windrowed them bacause of all the green stuff as I belive you may have also .



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Dave Sherburne NY

07-29-2006 15:22:41




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 Re: cutting oats in reply to Don-Wi, 07-29-2006 12:46:55  
Let me tell you how its done in NY. The Oats stand till they are mature and ready to combine.
Then the combine comes in cuts it high, just to get the oats. Why run all that stuff through $150000 combine if all you want is the oats? Then if you
have to cut the rest , use the haybine/discbine.



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Don-Wi

07-29-2006 21:18:55




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 Re: cutting oats in reply to Dave Sherburne NY, 07-29-2006 15:22:41  
Well, that $150,000 aint ours and they snap belts if they don't get to it quick enough and it's a bit weedy.

We also want ALL of the straw because we bale some of it and sell it for decoration for halloween and we also sell cover hay. We chop what we need for bedding in oats and swamp grass, then the rest gets baled.

The trouble with going in later to cut it, is what the combine smashed down won't get picked up by the haybine so we'd rather cut it first to let it dry a little before they run it. All it takes is to be cut 1 day before they run it so the weeds, if they are there, wilt and dry enough to go through without problems.

Also if they run it standing and they put it right in our grain bin (useing the auger truck), it heats a little and then it doesn't grow as good the next year. Knocking it down a day in advance lets it dry enough so it doesn't cause problems with the seed. We grow it for 4 things, seed, straw, cover crop, and feed. We need it to be dry when they run it, and we need it clipped down right away so it doesn't choke out our new seeding.

I know we could plant alfalfa without a cover, but for us it only makes sense to put in oats too.

Just how it's done in Wisconsin, your results may vary.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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RickL

07-29-2006 15:17:36




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 Re: cutting oats in reply to Don-Wi, 07-29-2006 12:46:55  
I do it all time but I don't windrow it just combine them bale straw after Doing this never have any trouble with seeding underneath. I do rye same way but I alway combine it all low cause I want the straw. Tried the windrow one time and got rain the next afternoon then by time you get it dried out you have lost the oats. I always just combine them direct and cut low



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JMS/MN

07-29-2006 13:37:00




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 Re: cutting oats in reply to Don-Wi, 07-29-2006 12:46:55  
Check the manual for details about backing off the conditioner rolls. I used a neighbors for barley many years ago- worked fine. Also used my NI 5209 Discbine the same way. Cutting with dew on helps retain grain, - quit before mid-morning if a lot is falling out- judgment call. Also cut greener than you would with a draper swather.



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Don-Wi

07-29-2006 15:15:55




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 Re: cutting oats in reply to JMS/MN, 07-29-2006 13:37:00  
I was going to take the crimper right off, it doesn't look to hard, just heavy, so it'll probably be a bear to get off. We don't have a manual yet, I've been watching ebay, but I'm pretty familiar with the workings of it already. It's not our first haybine, just a bigger one.

We replaced the entire sickle, including the guards and hold down clips. We only reused the drive heads. (double sickle machine)

It's in pretty good shape, and we've only got about $1200 invested so far and it's drastically reduced out time in the feild vs. our 9' New Idea mow/ditioner. We still kept the NI though, it works great in swamps and the like where the grass grows 7-8'+ and 14' is too much.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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iowaw9

07-30-2006 19:19:58




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 Re: cutting oats in reply to Don-Wi, 07-29-2006 15:15:55  
When I was a kid in Kansas after we finish harvesting the standing wheat we put the pickup attachment on and would go around the community picking up the swathed grain and alfalfa seed. Some used one of a couple of draper swathers around and others used auger swathers. The draper swathers laid the grain down nicer and was some easier to pickup. But the auger ones worked just fine also. No better quailty grain than what came out of the window.

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