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Joe in IN

07-26-2006 09:15:01




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Alfalfa/grass mix got rained on. This is my first batch of rained on hay(3rd year of doing hay).

Now what?

It was in windrows, having already been raked. I have a tedder. I assume tedder it out after rain has stopped and do it all over again. Any Secrets??




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Luke S

07-27-2006 06:26:37




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 Re: Rained on Hay in reply to Joe in IN, 07-26-2006 09:15:01  
I don't know about alfalfa, I just do fescue, orchard grass, and timothy, and I could not get by without a tedder. I here some people put them down but I like mine. I have had hay that has gotten and inch of rain on it and go out there the next day and ted and it is dry by the evening if you have warm sunny weather. I never could get hay to dry worth a darn in a windrow, tried it earlier this week cause my tedder had a bad tire, mind you it's july and was 95 out, still couldn't get it all dry after three days, and this is light second cutting hay. I closing, I wouldn't/couldn't bale hay without a tedder.

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Illinois Farmall

07-26-2006 18:52:51




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 Re: Rained on Hay in reply to Joe in IN, 07-26-2006 09:15:01  
Personally, with alfalfa in it I wouldn't use the tedder on it again. You'll knock off whatever leaves you have left. When the top is dried out good just take your rake and turn it over and let the bottom dry. Rain is just a part of haying...some times you win and sometimes you don't. Good luck.



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Michael Soldan

07-26-2006 19:19:53




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 Re: Rained on Hay in reply to Illinois Farmall, 07-26-2006 18:52:51  
Illinois farmer, I'm with you, and if the weather is still looking iffy, I wouldn't touch it until I was ready to bale it, then I would flip it when the top dried and a few hours of air and sun and I'd have it on the wagons, many folks get itchy and want to turn hay, that gets you both sides of the swath weathered and sun bleached, let it lay and dry on top, if your baler is all ready, then flip and be ready to bale when the hay is, otherwise you will just get it more weathered...Mike in Exeter Ontario

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Hal/WA

07-26-2006 15:56:29




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 Re: Rained on Hay in reply to Joe in IN, 07-26-2006 09:15:01  
We always tried to work the down hay in turning it the least we could to avoid losing alfalfa leaves and blossoms. I would dig into some of the windrows to see how damp they are. Depending on how much rain you got and how dry it is now and how dry the hay was when it rained, it might not pay to move the windrows at all, but just wait until they are dry enough and then bale it. Good luck!



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mike kinsella

07-26-2006 13:37:42




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 Re: Rained on Hay in reply to Joe in IN, 07-26-2006 09:15:01  
Joe

just had a piece ready to bale-in fact had started but a thunderstorm lasting 4 hours stopped proceedings, after 2 days of decent sunshine , having shook it out, got it pretty good- i would say it lost about 30% goodness as a guess but no major problem.



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RickL

07-26-2006 10:12:32




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 Re: Rained on Hay in reply to Joe in IN, 07-26-2006 09:15:01  
Just go out and rake it no big deal leavit alone then turn next day depending on weather then bale. No big deal its just part of doing that crop. I am not a tedder fan especially in alfalfa,but use it if you like. If it get s that bad i just use my batwing then rerake and bale,its ground mulch by then but there is a market for that also,so no big deal but would rather it gets up looking nice. ususally you need 3inches of rasin or maore toget it that stage,it really depends on the days after the rain that makes the difference,have had it rained on all week and still sold it just not premium price. Just goes with it. Don't wory about just rake it

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buckva

07-26-2006 11:51:28




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 Re: Rained on Hay in reply to RickL, 07-26-2006 10:12:32  

Like this post, good info, good attitude.



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Dave H (MI)

07-26-2006 13:27:59




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 Re: Rained on Hay in reply to buckva, 07-26-2006 11:51:28  
I agree. Haying is not for everyone. I have seen people get so upset over weather, equipment, and acts of God that they quit and walked away.
You kinda have to have that sort of attitude or leave it to someone who does.



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Billy NY

07-26-2006 20:42:58




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 Re: Rained on Hay in reply to Dave H (MI), 07-26-2006 13:27:59  
You sure have that right, I have seen the results of this, it can make people crazy, thrower breaking bales, knotters, darn weather etc. I was on a wagon stacking and dear old dad stopped suddenly out of frustration, I flew out the front of the wagon onto the stubble, just behind the baler, a nice model 532 ford, actually not bad, just that thrower had to go, we took it off. I rolled out of the way of the wagon just in time, was always quick when in danger. I don't think he recalls the incident, I sure as hell do, glad I was behind the baler, rather get run over by a wagon then baled !

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Billy NY

07-26-2006 09:55:21




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 Re: Rained on Hay in reply to Joe in IN, 07-26-2006 09:15:01  
Arond here, I've always noticed, that when hay is still left in the swath, and rained on, then turned over when the rain stops using a rake or tedder, you seem to benefit from the thatch roof theory/effect, as the underside is usually still green, depends on how much and how long it rains for, sometimes it's a loss, and although you may have the top layer bleached or tanned to some degree, when you rake/ted then bale it, your bales still have plenty of green and sometimes look as if there was no rain involved at all.

It seems that with what you have, you have no choice but to get it dried out asap, after the rain stops. Once it's raked/ted'd fluffed up, rain mat's it down soaks it, then re-raked/ted'd, hard to say what it will look like when dry again. Seems to take a beating sometimes, I can recall baling just to get it off the field after losing it to weather, and also raking into big windrows for removal without baling, as it was no good for the horses, most of the dairy farmers then, usually had enough so no one needed it, and was not worth storing for mulch hay then.

Best advice will come from the experts, not me, and lately around here there ought to be some experts on dealing with hay that has been rained on, per the latest weather this season, mostly rain ! At least we've had some hot and dry weather and I don't mind a fair amount of rain, but's really been a tough year to get anything done outside.

I had a visitor from another farm this morning, same guy who was dealing with some large quantities of hay from some really nice and recently planted hay grasses, I saw a self propelled Challenger bine doing the cutting back in June, recall a window of dry weather then, said the modern equipment cut his dry time by a day, I just happened to notice the fields nearby cut and he had some rained on, but apparently recovered it, I think he's put in 5000 bales from what he said. May have to take a look at it, I think some of that will be up for sale.

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old

07-26-2006 09:25:40




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 Re: Rained on Hay in reply to Joe in IN, 07-26-2006 09:15:01  
Your lucky you have a tedder. Tedder it and let it dry again and you should be ok, had that happen to use a couple weeks ago and for the most part the hay was still good. Other then what was in winrows but we don't have a tedder so it was harder to get it to dry.



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Ken Macfarlane

07-26-2006 12:32:17




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 Re: Rained on Hay in reply to old, 07-26-2006 09:25:40  
Not an expert but here if it was still wet and got rained on there is very little degrade. If it was dry and near ready to bale and got wet in one shower and got rolled over or tedded out to dry then raked again your biggest loss is leaves falling off.

Every day it stays wet the quality drops as bacteria and molds eat the proteins and sugars in the plants. Even before it looks bad it can be very low protein from what I've read. Once it is starting to look bad and smell moldy it isn't much good for feed. Animals will eat it and its fine for bulk but there isn't much nutrition left in it.

We sell the poor stuff as mulch and feed the marginal stuff to a neighbours work horse that is retired. He gets bored when he isn't eating and starts being a pain so we keep him occupied with that stuff.

Riding horse owners seem to be the worse for selling hay too, they aren't concerned with the protein or conditions the hay was baled under only if it looks green and smells like hay.

Don't be tempted to bale up nearly dry enough hay as the moisture will be high enough to cause a cook. Old timers say oh that heavier stuff will go through a sweat when it heats then its fine. Well that sweat is all the stuff eating up your protein in the bale. It won't get hot enough to burn, just enough to ruin your hay.

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