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Banana baler ???- news to me

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Hayman

07-19-2006 22:03:50




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We've used NH balers since 1975 and still have the first one my father bought! Which has done probably a good 800,000 bales by now with no problems with "banana bales" as you call them when run correctly.

Balers 1st need to be set properly according to the operators manual. Then it has to be in good condtion. Especailly the plunger knives and clearances etc. Next you need to drive at the right speed as to not over feed the baler. For my bales for the NH balewagon I like a 38" bale with about 12-15 strokes in it. Only time I've seen a banana bale with our old NH balers is when the driver is trying to ram bales through with only 8 strokes per bale. Sure the baler is heavy duty enough to do this but it makes poor bales!!!

Our old balers make nice bales that pick good.

This new 575 makes nice bales in light or heavy swaths it seems to me. I have no complaints about bale shape or length problems. I think so far it's done 2500 bales this week.

I do all the picking about 30-40,000 bales a year so I like nice bales and really the old NH's have done just fine over the years. When I have to pick 3 or 4000 bales in a day I have no time to fool around with "poor shapped bales". We go out set the tension when we start (and through out the day) and get baling!!! Once the baler is set it all comes down to the driver making sure they are making bales with the correct amount of strokes.

Only complaint I have with the old 278's is the feed rack system that is high maintance and can crash up. If it wasn't for this I think these old balers would run for another million bales.

JD balers work fine too but are they really any better?? I can't say as everone has a different opinion on it. Some guys swear by the Hesston inline and would never think of using a NH or a JD!!

If you feel a JD baler will work better for your condtions you should get one then.

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RickL

07-20-2006 05:53:32




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 Re: Banana baler ???- news to me in reply to Hayman, 07-19-2006 22:03:50  
yousaid mouth full when any piece has to be set correctly etc. The red unit has been runnig now for 6 years i think now I don't know for sure time flies anyway. It just fiffernt in the deere units as far as what it likes to make it bale correctly, after you figure that out it does okay. What weight do you make you bales,from what i hear you need them really heavy for those wagons to work,I know that makes a diffwerence in this baler as I don't hardly want anything over 50 lbs for 90% of my sales. i think alot of the issues i was having was simply going to a high stroke baler,they do way different then the 60 and under stroke balers. Me I am not color picky if it works thats all I care about PERIOD. How many balers are you running at a time.

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Hayman

07-20-2006 07:32:08




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 bale wieght in reply to RickL, 07-20-2006 05:53:32  
I shoot for a 55lb bale on average so some may be 45lbs and some up to 60 depending on field conditions. When the hay gets real dry of course it doesn't pack as easy. Most of the hay we've baled this year has been down around 10% moisture.

60 stoke baler that sounds even older then my old balers! We did use to have a couple Massey 12's before the NH278. I'm not sure how many strokes a minute they were but less then the NH 278.

We bale always with 2 balers and on big fields with 3 when I have the drivers. With 3 balers going it takes no time to clean off a 60 acre field. But then I really fall behind in picking if its a good 80-90 bale an acre crop!

My hay is sold by the 160 bale stack. As thats how its delivered with a stack retriever truck.

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RickL

07-20-2006 15:19:31




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 Re: bale wieght in reply to Hayman, 07-20-2006 07:32:08  
I think my old deer was 68 if remember typed a 0 instead of 8. Anyway there simoply is no comparisaon on how they operate. We juast got done doing short fifty in day and half so thougt that was good the baler never stoped as I run accumulator system,they were all on wheels that secon day also. i use the old donahue implement trailers and load and tarp. 264 usually to a load 44to a layer a 6 high. Have 10 of those units plus three other trailers. this was straw and alweays shoot for 100 per acre if lucky. I have always heard those wagons had to havw at least 70 lb bales to work decent. I have way to many hills for them and sheds not suited to them. I like the system i use as it has lots of versatility to it. Whats a bale worth in your area. Here I get $3.00 for straw out of field,hay is $3.50 also up to 4.50 out of field. deliverd is more etc etc.

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