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Ever notice how loose some bales get after setting

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unioncreek

07-14-2006 14:00:41




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I baled some wheatgrass hay the other day, it had dried for 4 days and it was completely dry. My old baler was making good tight bales, string only stretched enough to get your hands under the twine. They sat in the field for three days before I could get to them. Went to pick them up and I could not believe how loose the string was it would stretch to about four inches from the bale. Anyone else have this happen.

Bobg

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Leland

07-17-2006 01:26:42




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 Re: Ever notice how loose some bales get after set in reply to unioncreek, 07-14-2006 14:00:41  
All or most bales do this the wires are alway loose after hay cures ,it winter I have had the wires come up a foot before the bale would move .



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rick YYC

07-16-2006 07:02:54




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 Re: loose bales in reply to unioncreek, 07-14-2006 14:00:41  
do you recall about how many strokes per bale you were running?

I've had a similar problem, was told I needed to slow down and use more strokes for more material compression. I ws using 10
-11 strokes of the plungger per bale, was advised that 15-17 makes bales that stay tight.



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paul

07-15-2006 21:15:54




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 Re: Ever notice how loose some bales get after set in reply to unioncreek, 07-14-2006 14:00:41  
Typically moisture in the bale, as others say.

--->Paul



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BobMo

07-15-2006 11:08:58




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 Re: Ever notice how loose some bales get after set in reply to unioncreek, 07-14-2006 14:00:41  
I know you don't want to think you baled them wet but you did. There just isn't any other way for this to happen. What your looking for is someone to confirm what you thought, it was dry. There is one good thing though and that is you may have left them in the field long enough for them to dry and not mold or burn your barn.....Good Luck



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Chick

07-15-2006 10:30:44




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 Re: Ever notice how loose some bales get after set in reply to unioncreek, 07-14-2006 14:00:41  
The only time I have seen this, is when the bales sit in the field for a couple of the nights. I think the moisture from the ground is sucked up into the bale and string, causeing the hay to compress and the string to stretch.



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unioncreek

07-15-2006 07:09:20




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 Re: Ever notice how loose some bales get after set in reply to unioncreek, 07-14-2006 14:00:41  
I'm talking tall wheatgrass hay not wheat straw and small square bales. And it was dry, temps were in the high 90's and humidity was in single digits. You could grab a handful and bend it and it would break.

Bobg



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RickL

07-15-2006 10:27:42




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 Re: Ever notice how loose some bales get after set in reply to unioncreek, 07-15-2006 07:09:20  
I do not know then because I have never had that problem unless it was little on tough side or the bale tension was offf in first place. Mine are all on edge as I use a accumulator system. don't know the answer. I do alfalfa,alfalfa mix, gras hay,rye straw.oats straw.



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RickL

07-14-2006 19:33:43




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 Re: Ever notice how loose some bales get after set in reply to unioncreek, 07-14-2006 14:00:41  
Just sounds to me like it was wet,i have hay, straw that I sell year around and little bit of it carries into each new year and very seldom do i have the problem you talking about uinless it was baled to wet is from what i have learned when the moisture does go out they will be loose.



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msb

07-14-2006 19:15:35




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 Re: Ever notice how loose some bales get after set in reply to unioncreek, 07-14-2006 14:00:41  
Stack em on edge in the mow.They will tighten back up.



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signman

07-14-2006 14:35:44




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 Re: Ever notice how loose some bales get after set in reply to unioncreek, 07-14-2006 14:00:41  
There is only one way bales shrink that I've found. There had to be moisture removed after baling, ussually due to the heating of wet product. I have never baled with a machine that you could get your fingers under the twine after baling. I do admit I have only run hard core balers since 1977. If indeed your wheat was dry then perhaps you should be looking at your baler to see how you can get more pressure. Are you putting enough twine on to help hold the bales shape? we strive for string at 2-3" intervals with at least 3 end wraps. I would first get a moisture check on the hay if it is in that safe range look more to how you are tying the bale. Having done a lot of custom baling we found that scrimping on twine gets you deformed bales and fewer customers.

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