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$200 NH 850 baler

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Ron-MO

07-12-2006 19:01:26

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I posted a couple weeks ago about the 850 chain baler....well it rolled its first bale last weekend. Not a pretty bale, but it is ready to go into the field and roll. I purchased two used chains, welded some 18 guage steel in the worn tracks which were the reason the chains broke, oiled it up and it sounds pretty good. Total $$ about $350 or so including new twine. Now for the questions.....I am still looking for a manual (heck, I cannot spend too much on a $300 baler now can I?), but as soon as one is on ebay I will pick it up. A quick lesson on finishing up the roll and tying would help me get going I think. I got it tied, but I did not get nearly enough twine on that bale. The former owner said to drop the twine into the running baler while still feeding and once it starts pulling the twine in stop the tractor, and feed the twine across the bale slowly. Also the best practice to drop the bale..... stop pto, open gate, kick pto in???? It is a manual hand tie baler. I see Kelly C already got some tips on tighter bales. Hopefully I can roll enough to pay for the baler this year. As you can tell this is a poor mans operation. Thanks in advance.

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tmay

07-13-2006 15:11:07

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Re: $200 NH 850 baler in reply to Ron-MO, 07-12-2006 19:01:26

I use to have a NH 847 I believe was the number It was the first small roll baler that Holland made. Anyway I always left running at half throttle when wrapping the twine then back up and stop the PTO kick it out drop gate make sure the hydralic cylinders come down to lock the gate. Crank up the PTO and head out again Worked for me. I always liked the chain balers even though they may not make the smoothest bales Goo luck

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Nebraska Cowman

07-13-2006 03:56:27

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Re: $200 NH 850 baler in reply to Ron-MO, 07-12-2006 19:01:26

Also the best practice to drop the bale..... stop pto, open gate, kick pto in????

Yup. With the 850 you stop the PTO to open the gate. Then just before you shut the gate ease the tractor ahead a foot or so, shut gate, start PTO and you are good to go. Or you might have to back up a little while you are tying. Expierment a little you will find what works best for you but an 850 won't throw the bale out far enough to quite clear the gate.

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Allan In NE

07-12-2006 19:27:51

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Re: $200 NH 850 baler in reply to Ron-MO, 07-12-2006 19:01:26

Ron,

Leave the PTO running and at full speed when tying. Watch the twine, put two full loops around the one end, move it four or six inches for each additional wrap across the bale and then put another two wraps at the other end.

The chain will automatically stop when you lift the gate and start again when you lower the gate back down.

Never slow that tractor PTO speed down; things go to he!! in a handbasket when you start dropping the speed and/or shutting off the PTO.

Allan

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Ron-MO

07-12-2006 19:33:30

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Re: $200 NH 850 baler in reply to Allan In NE, 07-12-2006 19:27:51

That explains a lot since I stopped the pto several times before getting it tied, then ejecting the bale. I knew the bale looked pretty good while rolling and it went down the tubes after I played around trying to get the twine wrapping started and ejecting the bale. I have seen worse though sitting in the field. Makes me wonder if some of the problem is guys like me who do not know what they are doing and never read a manual?

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old

07-12-2006 19:52:08

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Re: $200 NH 850 baler in reply to Ron-MO, 07-12-2006 19:33:30

A manual from NH is only about $30-40 I know because I got one a few years ago. Or I guess if you send me an e-mail I could scan a page or 2 for you. Can't scan the whole thing as it would take me a week to send it with my slow dial up LOL

Hobby farm

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Allan In NE

07-12-2006 19:43:10

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Re: $200 NH 850 baler in reply to Ron-MO, 07-12-2006 19:33:30

Well,

No one can blame ya for "being careful" the first few times when using an old baler that you are unfamiliar with.

After you find that it is going to be okay without flyin' all apart, wrap 'er up and bale some hay! :>)

Allan

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Harley

07-12-2006 19:55:27

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Re: $200 NH 850 baler in reply to Allan In NE, 07-12-2006 19:43:10

Ron, I used an 845 this year and rolled all of mine up with it behind an M and Allan is right. Keep that thing running. Now with the M, ya gotta be quick, but ya pull it outa gear and geter stopped while letting the engine and pto keep running. After yer stopped, (mine is manual tie too.) break the crank loose and let it go all the way over and when it starts pulling the string, do like Allan says, feed it across, and then at the end, snap it up and that will cut the twine. One thing ya wanta do while feeding the hay into that thing, is wander back and forth over the windrow about every ten-fifteen seconds from one side to the other. This builds up the outside of the bales and they will be more uniform in shape. Don't worry about the middle as it gets plenty of feed anyway. My bales looked a lot better this year than they did last year, cause I drove like a drunk sailor back and forth and built up the outside edges. Good luck, and happy baling. I'm on a shoestring down here in the Ozarks too. Got that old chainer baler, an M farmall is my main tractor, an old Dearborn rake, and a NH 450 sickle mower that I just love. Get to spend a lot of seat time and that's what's important, cause that's all the "farming" we get to do down here in the hills. Harley

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Ron-MO

07-12-2006 20:51:47

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Re: $200 NH 850 baler in reply to Harley, 07-12-2006 19:55:27

Thanks Harley. That helps. I guess I have been working with tractors and equipment for as long as I can remember and I am 46 now. Just never baled with a big rounder before, and never paid a whole lot of attention to others running them. Baled plenty of squares (2000 this year). Still mowing with Farmall C and IH 31 sickle my dad bought in the 50's that I learned to drive on. I dont think it owes me much, and I dont have any plans on retiring it. Just cannot justify one of those $15,000 balers anyway I look at it. I only hay around 50-60 acres a year and work full time on a job that is about 35 miles each way and travel some to boot.

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Allan In NE

07-12-2006 20:15:01

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Re: $200 NH 850 baler in reply to Harley, 07-12-2006 19:55:27

You got 'er!

That's why I'm combining my oat. Like I really need a bin full of oats. Just wanna do it again.

Had fully intended on scooping the stuff into the bin by hand too, 'cept Mama says I gotta buy an old auger. :>)

It's the fun of the thing.

Allan

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Harley

07-13-2006 11:57:24

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Re: $200 NH 850 baler in reply to Allan In NE, 07-12-2006 20:15:01

You ain't kidding us Allan. Them oats are gonna come in real handy this winter when Flame, Flash, and "You damned no-good for nothing jug head" get hungry. Best horsey feed there is. And they'll be your new best friend when ya feed em. Harley

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