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Silage special round baler vs. standard for baleag

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RussUPMI

07-10-2006 10:18:49




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How important is the silage special package on a round baler compared to a standard set up? I am wanting to find a NH 640/644 or Vermeer 504I round baler to do baleage and need some opinions, especially from those who do baleage without silage special balers. Thanks for your thoughts.




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RodInNS

07-11-2006 19:00:23




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 Re: Silage special round baler vs. standard for ba in reply to RussUPMI, 07-10-2006 10:18:49  
Can't answer your questions..... But, if you're looking to bale silage, or anythig for that matter, why not look at a Claas baler. They're fixed chamber, and the bales are soft centered, but they bale anything. They don't have bale starting problems. They don't have to be changed over for this, and back for that, and this removed and on and on. They just bale, and they do it faster than anything else on the market. I've had an old 44s for close to 20 years. Replaced some rollers from rock damage. Otherwise just normal pickup parts, and a few pickup bearings. Probably done over 25,000 bales at this point, and still going strong.
The never style have the top 3 rollers mounted on a hinge, and drop them down into the chamber for bale starting. This enhances compression, supposedly, as the bale is started rotating sooner rather than tumbling, which it does until the chamber fills.
The downside of a high performance baler is a high performance price... but if you're pushing the bales out, it will cost you less in the end. For what it's worth....

Rod

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kyhayman

07-11-2006 16:39:10




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 Re: Silage special round baler vs. standard for ba in reply to RussUPMI, 07-10-2006 10:18:49  
I use a NH 650 for RB silage, does great. Personally, I like the 650 tension system better than the 640 esp on wet hay. You just set your tie size smaller (less than a minute with a 3/4 inch wrench). I run 4x4 for RB silage and barn stored hay to sell. For what I feed I normally run 4x5.5.

To change from dry to wet I also take the feeder fork off (have to do that on a silage spec too). Cuts down on starting problems in really wet hay. Also, I normally clean my idler rollers after baling wet hay as it tends to build up there, but, once again silage balers do too. Putting up about 1000 wet and a 3000 dry this year with a pair of 650's.

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Kelly Campbell

07-11-2006 06:52:13




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 Re: Silage special round baler vs. standard for ba in reply to RussUPMI, 07-10-2006 10:18:49  
I know a guy that runs a 504 I and has no complaints that I know of...So far this summer he's probabbly got 600-800 bales made.



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Fordfarmer

07-11-2006 06:31:41




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 Re: Silage special round baler vs. standard for ba in reply to RussUPMI, 07-10-2006 10:18:49  
I usually hire my round baling done, but I rented a Gehl baler a couple years ago. Worthless for high moisture bales. Spent half a day making 4 bales. The ones made for HM work OK - built heavier and have different belt routing. My cousin used to bale for me. He had a 504L if I remember right. Good baler. Bottom line, I'd say if you're going to do any number of HM bales (and you probably will, once you start using them) get a baler that's desinged for it.

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Ble Buddy

07-10-2006 15:45:30




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 Re: Silage special round baler vs. standard for ba in reply to RussUPMI, 07-10-2006 10:18:49  
I guess it really depends on how much yer gonna do, and /or what yer gonna spend, I know the silage balers from NH have some heavier slip clutchs and are beefed up in a couple places, but if yer not doing that many bales, and not gonna make them the maximum density the baler will produce, then you might get away with a standard, I also think the silage has a slightly different roll in one spot, good luck with yer machine hunt

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Hay DR

07-10-2006 14:53:56




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 Re: Silage special round baler vs. standard for ba in reply to RussUPMI, 07-10-2006 10:18:49  
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A 504 Super I bale with the spiral roller 1992+ is the same as the Vermeer silage baler except for the steel knife. The plastic build-up knife scrapper is better anyway. Some of the later Super I balers has Hydraulic and spring pressure. You will find out the 4x4 bale are the best size to handle. Also a standard Rebel 5400 will bale haylage and it has hydraulic tension.

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