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nate 1

07-07-2006 17:11:58

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hey everyone,
ive got a dilema here. last summer i square baled about 2000 square bales for my beefers. there are no barns close to rent so i piled the hay outside and tarped it. i wasnt to happy with the results, not to mention all the time and labor with square bales. so im thinking about a round baler. id like something in the 2000 dollar range, but everything that seems worth buying is in the 5000 dollar range. id like to stay with a 4x4 or 4x5 bale so i can sell the extra easily. what make or model should i be looking at. i hate the idea of going into debt to feed a few beefers.
thanks for any input
nate

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Fern(Mi)

07-08-2006 19:19:07

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Re: round baler advice in reply to nate 1, 07-07-2006 17:11:58

There are some older Vermeer 605F's out there. easy to work on, they roll a tight bale that'll take the weather. And, you don't have to roll 5'x6' bales. Roll them 5'x4'if that's all you can handle.
My thoughts only.
Fernan

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KEH

07-08-2006 17:30:19

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Re: round baler advice in reply to nate 1, 07-07-2006 17:11:58

I'm going to vote against the chain balers. Had one. Chains are expensive and hard to replace. Belts usually can be patched.
Vermeer 504F, G, H balers are pretty good, but a 504I is much better.
Never had any experience with a John Deere, but I don't think you should get a JD earlier than a 430. Haven't heard anything bad about the JD 435.
Try to hear the baler run before you buy it. Don't ask me how I know this.

KEH

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jswintx

07-08-2006 11:51:17

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Re: round baler advice in reply to nate 1, 07-07-2006 17:11:58

I bought a J.D. 435 this last spring for $4000. The previous owner had new belts put on it last summer and had only rolled 75 rolls since then. I had to replace 4 bearings and so far it's done great. Your best bet is to wait till this winter or spring to find a decent baler. Remember just because it cost $2000 doesnt mean you wont spend another $2000 in getting it up to working order. Go ahead and spend the extra money and get a good baler that works, it makes learning and baling alot easier. Good luck!

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Luke S

07-08-2006 06:00:54

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Re: round baler advice in reply to nate 1, 07-07-2006 17:11:58

I have a Hesston 5500. It makes a 5x5 that weighs around 1,100-1,150lbs. I gave $2200 for it three years ago and it has been great. Replaced one u-joint and put two tires on it, baled about 400 bales with it in the past three years and couldn't be happier. It had had all new bearings and new hydraulic hoses put on it before I got it, so there are some good balers left out there for that money, but you have to sift through a lot of junk to find them.

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RodInNS

07-07-2006 20:57:01

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Re: round baler advice in reply to nate 1, 07-07-2006 17:11:58

Don't take this worng, but for 2 grand, you're looking for that once a year auction special.... You know the one. It's parked in the back row. The paint is poor. The wind is coming up, and the rain is starting to drive, and everyone else is going home, cause that damn old baler isn't worth standing there to watch it go..... I saw a Gehl 1400 go for about a grand this spring, and it looked decent and in working order. Just nobody wanted it. Otherwise, you would be looking for one of the old NH chainers, or some of the off brand stuff like Krone that everyone is scared of because they don't know anything about it.
Personally, I run a Claas 44s which I'm happy with. It makes a 4x4 bale, soft core. That said, I don't think you would find one for 2 grand, or if you did, then it would need a pile of work. Rollers, hydraulics, pickup, etc. There just aren't too many good balers in that price range. Although, if you take out the local farm rags, look up the adds, and start calling, you'll likely find a dealer with something he would sooner see gone at this time of year. This is getting to the end of the season to sell balers.... They're apt to negociate... Good luck.

Rod

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JM in Merit

07-07-2006 20:20:31

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Re: round baler advice in reply to nate 1, 07-07-2006 17:11:58

You might be able to find a vermeer 605 F for that amount or alittle more. I had one and just sold it. I have heard of ones going for 2000 to 2500 dollars at auction. The 605 F makes a larger bale 6X5 and is a good baler, but will need some repair more than likely as it is an older baler. But I never had any thing major on mine going out. Preentinve maintance is main thing.
I also heard of JD 535 and 530 (again 6X5, that what most bale around me)going for 3000 to 5000 depening on conditions at auction.
But like other said you will probably have to work on it and have a few break downs.
Baling is something I enjoy doing, plus I never could get someone to bale my hay when I needed it baled, so about 20 years ago I started out started baling my own.
One other thing I will throw out and this will not work all the time, but it has for some neighbors I know. One has a tractor and bought a rake the other neighbor bought a baler and cutter and they combine their machinery and got into the hay baling business. They bale only about 75 to 100 bales a year for both. I know this would not work for everyone but it does for them (last 10 years). They share repair on all equpiment, not sure how they will determine when to sell or upgrade etc
Sorry for the long post, it will be hard to do, but you maybe be able to find one, just keep looking.

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Allan In NE

07-07-2006 19:42:52

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Re: round baler advice in reply to nate 1, 07-07-2006 17:11:58

Nate,

Are you mechanical? If so, buy an old chainer for a little of nothing. They are everywhere and nobody wants 'em 'cause they are out of vouge.

If you're not mechanically inclined, you are whistlin' up a rope for $2000.

Sad but true,

Allan

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old

07-07-2006 17:55:07

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Re: round baler advice in reply to nate 1, 07-07-2006 17:11:58

In my area you can pick up a good used 5.5X5.5 chain type balers for less then that but as you said they are the big one and you don't seem to want that. Of course with the NH 850 I have I can make a bale from 3-5.5 and any where between.

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phillip d

07-07-2006 17:53:23

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Re: round baler advice in reply to nate 1, 07-07-2006 17:11:58

if you only need that much hay,why not concider getting a custom opperator,no headakes,a 2000 baler,lots of headakes,phill

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GRJ

07-07-2006 17:14:31

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Re: round baler advice in reply to nate 1, 07-07-2006 17:11:58

GOOD LUCK!!!!!

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