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walterep

07-03-2006 04:32:01




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I've got a NH 451 in very good condition. It cuts clean, but heavy grass falls forward, not back. I end up pushing a pile of cut material. Seems like I may be doing something wrong. Any ideas?




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NDaircaptain

07-06-2006 05:08:54




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 Re: sickle bar cutting problems in reply to walterep, 07-03-2006 04:32:01  
I cut in fourth gear most times with my #8 JD on the 60. Third if really heavy and clip roadside in 5th. wind over 15mph is trouble and so is garbage in the roadside. Make sure your hold downs are "holding down" so that the sickles have about 1/32nd on top and bottom. Good luck!



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walterep

07-05-2006 08:01:12




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 Re: sickle bar cutting problems in reply to walterep, 07-03-2006 04:32:01  
Thanks everyone. I had the best luck tilting the bar up and cutting fast. Nice, tall grass was a breeze. I've got some areas loaded with a viney type of vetch. That was a mess. I might try a disk mower.



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RayP(MI)

07-04-2006 15:40:45




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 Re: sickle bar cutting problems in reply to walterep, 07-03-2006 04:32:01  
Also try different gear and throttle settings. I was having this problem today with my Deere 350, on a Farmall 200. Found that if I ran in 1st gear, and a pretty fast throttle setting, things went slightly better. I could do other side of field in 2nd gear, throttled back a little... who Knows?



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RickL

07-04-2006 06:03:35




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 Re: sickle bar cutting problems in reply to walterep, 07-03-2006 04:32:01  
You are just experiencing some of the natural items you deal with with a normal sickle bar mower.tall downed gras can be nighmare as really short grean grass like you have mentioned. You must have sharp sickle and if its down you usually have no choice but to go one way,good luck. I run disc unit and no way would go back to sickle



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RayP(MI)

07-03-2006 16:07:11




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 Re: sickle bar cutting problems in reply to walterep, 07-03-2006 04:32:01  
Have had the same problems. Be sure that your knives are sharp. Make sure that hold-downs are keeping blades close to sickles, and that ledger plates are clean and sharp. Only other suggestion is to mow one way - into the wind. I'm having trouble with fine short grass in the hay, clogging the sickle, also. Mole hills are another problem. You might raise cutterbar with the slides on the ends, I have already done this!

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MLD

07-03-2006 07:04:28




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 Re: sickle bar cutting problems in reply to walterep, 07-03-2006 04:32:01  
You may be able to angle the bar back slightly? If its tilted forward it could be tring to push the material & not letting it fall back.



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IaGary

07-03-2006 05:07:55




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 Re: sickle bar cutting problems in reply to walterep, 07-03-2006 04:32:01  
I've had that happen before.

If you can speed up that will help.

Was there a strong wind to your back? That don't help either and not much you can do about it.

Gary



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MN Bob

07-03-2006 05:53:31




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 Re: sickle bar cutting problems in reply to IaGary, 07-03-2006 05:07:55  
Speed like IAGary said, and I read once that the angle of the bar could have something to do with that. Is yours adjustable? If you could angle it flat or tilted up slightly would that help? Just thoughts from a poor memory.



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Illinois Boy

07-03-2006 07:19:21




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 Re: sickle bar cutting problems in reply to MN Bob, 07-03-2006 05:53:31  
You should be able to angle the cuuter bar slightly up by adjusting the center link on your 3pt hitch. Some mowers have a series of holes to put your pin through right on the mower, which will accomplish the same thing. Also - speed up as stated above.



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