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Any tricks to using a box blade?

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Randy as in Ran

07-02-2006 17:06:15




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Hi All ! I brought home a 8' box blade today ( Bush Hog mbx 960 ) and now wonder if there are any tricks to use it effectively ? I scraped the drive and pushed the log pile around some with no great success so what I need to know is how to adjust the top link length and hole position for it to do different jobs such as smooth , cut , scarify and cut or just scarify . It appears to be a no-brainer but looks can be deceiving . It has a hinged back blade on it . My 1755 has 4 holes in the bracket for the top link . The top hole let's the rear hang to low I think when up all the way but the bottom hole isn't much better . The link is almost as short as I can get it but it will level it out front to back when it's on the ground at least . But do I want it level ? I've never used a box type blade so any advice will be useful to me so I can speed up the learning curve . Thanks ! ...Randy

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SW Georgia

07-03-2006 16:07:17




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 Re: Any tricks to using a box blade? in reply to Randy as in Randy-IA, 07-02-2006 17:06:15  
Have you got whats called a rollover blade? Havent seen one with a "hinged" blade before.Most of the ones we have down here are "fixed" or "rollovers" To me a rollover is harder to use but to a lot of guys can work them better, to me they are a pain.
To use a fixed, adjust it so the sides of the box on the bottom are level to the ground or just a hair up. Drag a small amount of dirt up, than raise it up and pull forward,than go in reverse to shove it backwards.
Get up a little speed before shoveing the dirt in reverse tho and dont try to move too much at one time depending on your soil.As far as most larger rock goes, the boxblade will scatter it and wont level it to a smooth "finish". But it does do a good job on limerock and a fair job with gravel.You can even cut a swale with one if the dirt isnt compacted too hard.Be carefull with the ripper teeth and dont go too fast when working the teeth, or you might hang something and come to a sudden stop
The more you use it the better you will get, its a "feel" thing and something no one can really "teach" you.
Go to a job site and watch someone run one,thats where you will pick up the tricks at. I vote for the grader blade for finish work and the box just to move dirt or whatever,both have their good points and bad ones too.

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Randy as in Randy-IA

07-03-2006 21:08:35




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 Re: Any tricks to using a box blade? in reply to SW Georgia, 07-03-2006 16:07:17  
Hi SW , No , It's a regular box type blade but the rear facing cutter is on hinges to ride up over the forward cut and it hangs down about 1/2" lower when cutting in reverse . It's supposed to help when cutting down the sides of an embankment without the rear blade getting in the way and hanging up . I looked at those rollovers and saw some possibilities but saw more headaches . They are a refinement of the old tummblebug it seems to me . They look really handy for some things though since they have the scarifier teeth on them .

Having the front of the box slightly high is the way I thought it should be too . I think the biggest trouble I'll have is my hydraulic system is to touchy for the tph . A 1/4" movement of the lever results in 3" of movement on the hitch . I haven't tackled that one yet .

I'm working up to a skid steer . I should be able to sell off my first born to get one in a couple of years ( oh yeah - I don't have any kids ) Well There goes that dream ! LOL .

I think I'll go experiment on my sisters lane , it's a mile long and they are out of town for a week He-He . Thanks for the response ! Take care ...Randy

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Dale(MO)

07-03-2006 12:18:57




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 Re: Any tricks to using a box blade? in reply to Randy as in Randy-IA, 07-02-2006 17:06:15  
Randy,
Since nobody else will speak, I will give my $.02. I have been operating heavy equipment since I was young, and I have NEVER figured out how to really use a box blade, or why everybody thinks they are so great. It's nearly impossible to make anything flat by straight-blading. You can't widen with one. You can't push much backward (with anything on a tractor). If you set it to cut and gather into the box, you end up riding over the material when it's full, and what do you do with what's in the box? The scarifier teeth are okay, but you are limited with the depth by the weight of the blade (unless you have down pressure on the 3-point).

I can move more material, more efficiently, in less time with a good heavy grader blade. I have done it before, and I guess I will continue to do so - because I see no reason to buy a box blade.

As I said, this is only my opinion. I hope you figure out how to put it to use, and you enjoy it. Lots of people swear by one. Maybe I have just never figured out how to use one properly.

Good luck,
Dale(MO)

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Randy as in Randy-IA

07-03-2006 20:36:12




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 Re: Any tricks to using a box blade? in reply to Dale(MO), 07-03-2006 12:18:57  
Hi , I've been running heavy equipment for about 20 years now and I can see your point . I got this primarily to yank about 1/2 acre of maple tree sapling roots ( up to 6" dia. ) out this fall . I'm hoping it's strong enough . Then I had planned to add bolt-on wings to the backside and some wear pads like on a plow so I can use it like a backblade or grader blade I guess some call it to push snow in winter . Like making a box behind the box . I only have about 130' of drive to move the snow out of so it should work for that . I think that with a hydraulic top link things would work a lot better . Then the box could be " worked " like a loader bucket to get under a pile or ride over the top if needed . Maybe I'm dreamin' but it's all I can afford right now . ...Randy

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Boley

07-03-2006 00:11:25




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 Re: Any tricks to using a box blade? in reply to Randy as in Randy-IA, 07-02-2006 17:06:15  
I'm looking forward to reading the answers you receive Randy.My chert and creek gravel driveway gets wider every year.And it looks like an airplane crashed on it after I blade it.



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