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Animal

06-21-2006 04:50:59




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I think I am about to break over, I have fought it but yesterday it was threating rain and I had alf alfa down I was raking with the old side delivery rake the neighbor brought his wheel rake in to help me it was unbeilivable, how much hay he could pick up compared to me, to boot the wind was blowing and you could see leaves flying off my rake but none off his. If I do get one I want a good one any comments on what to look for or brands, I do not need a big one, I do not have the gates or the ground for one.

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bradk

06-22-2006 10:53:51




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 Re: Wheel rakes in reply to Animal, 06-21-2006 04:50:59  
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Here's our Tonutti s.p.a 5-wheel.Bought it new 10 yrs ago,never a problem,never lost a tooth.Bought it from Northland Farm Sys.in Owatonna,Mn.Would never go back to a side-delivery again.~brad



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Walter Squires

06-21-2006 11:37:03




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 Re: Wheel rakes in reply to Animal, 06-21-2006 04:50:59  
A wheel rake seems to work ok in grass hay tried using one in damp alfalfa what a joke, clump, clump, clump. We like to rake alfalfa in the morning while the dew is still on so we don't loose the leaves and let me tell you that a wheel rake is sure not the answer to that, also kind of gives a sickening feeling to see one of those new Firestone 18.4x38 come around with a broken wheel rake tooth sticking out of it.

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RickL

06-21-2006 18:13:02




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 Re: Wheel rakes in reply to Walter Squires, 06-21-2006 11:37:03  
sounds like you have one of the old style wheel rakes with the short teeth,yes those type are a joke but not the unit that have the teeth all the way to the middle of the wheel those rake wet hay just fine do it all summer long



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Don-Wi

06-21-2006 13:34:31




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 Re: Wheel rakes in reply to Walter Squires, 06-21-2006 11:37:03  
One way around loosing the tooth if it breaks off with the coil(the ones that stick really easy into tires) just wrap wire around the wheel through all the coils. We've saved many teeth from being lost that way, and only found one in a tire after the wire broke. Without the wire, it'd definately be more.
Donovan from wisconsin



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RickL

06-21-2006 10:31:58




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 Re: Wheel rakes in reply to Animal, 06-21-2006 04:50:59  
Animal; Yes I agree they are nice units in my eyes also.I am assembling a 16 wheel unit today but those big units are pricey. Inlines are nice like the 9 wheel units. I don't like the V style with transport wheels on the inside. In heavy hay you will plug up in the frame area. Go to New Holland .com they have very nice rakes made by sitrex. P.S. I do have a inline 6 wheeel rake for sale if that would work for you,its good unit I have always used,i am just goiing larger unit.

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KEHh

06-21-2006 09:38:50




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 Re: Wheel rakes in reply to Animal, 06-21-2006 04:50:59  
I had a 5 wheel 3ph wheel rake. Worked fine, except it broke teeth on uneven ground, which I have a lot of. Got a ten wheel Vermeer like the one Hay DR pictured and love it. It is on wheels and handles uneven ground fine. Only disadvantage is that if you raise the rake to turn around the back wheels drag the ground. An 8 wheel v rake will raise up enough to clear the ground. Also on the 10 wheel you have to adjust the rake so the back wheels don't drag the ground for transport. One make(Hesston) picks the rake up high and narrow for transport, but the tires are so close together I would be afraid it would turn over on a curve on the road, or turn over in the field when turning around on sloping ground.
I would like to try a Vicon in line wheel rake. They come in 7 or 9 wheels and you would use them like a basket rake in combining windrows, etc.
Hope this helps.

KEH

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Hay DR

06-21-2006 06:15:14




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 Re: Wheel rakes in reply to Animal, 06-21-2006 04:50:59  
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Wheel rakes like the one pictured are great time savers. Are they the best rake out there? No but for the money they get the job done. The faster you go the better your results with a wheel rake. You can spend $20,000 and not get any more production that you would get out of a $3,000 wheel rake.

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D boll

06-21-2006 04:59:25




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 Re: Wheel rakes in reply to Animal, 06-21-2006 04:50:59  
They have their place but are not a cure all, if hay grows through the windrow they won't get it all, the best for that situation was an old JD steel wheel side delivery. WE have a wheel rake but use it in combination with side rakes



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Rexalot

06-21-2006 06:32:31




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 Re: Wheel rakes in reply to D boll, 06-21-2006 04:59:25  
Im just the opposite, I have an older wheel rake that has 4 "wheels" made by Vicon. I would much rather have a bar rake. My rake does an ok job, but it will not do around a corner without dragging the hay. With only 4 wheels it makes it difficult to just turn the bottom up when flipping a windrow.

Otherwise, it sure does take a swath and windrow it up nicely. You can speed right along.



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RickL

06-21-2006 18:17:13




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 Re: Wheel rakes in reply to Rexalot, 06-21-2006 06:32:31  
why can't you just turn it over I do it all time ith my 6 wheel unit. All you need is one wheel anyway to do that,thats all I use on mine you justr have to find that right spot to drive accordingly



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Rexalot

06-22-2006 08:40:20




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 Re: Wheel rakes in reply to RickL, 06-21-2006 18:17:13  
I did not say it couldn't be done (flipping it over) just that it's difficult... to keep the rake over that "sweet spot". I lay down a 9ft swath, rake that into a big fluffy row. When I want to turn that row bottom side up it can be difficult when the row isn't straight.

Mine aren't always straight!



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Randy as in Randy-IA

06-23-2006 19:12:41




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 Re: Wheel rakes in reply to Rexalot, 06-22-2006 08:40:20  
I have that problem with my bar rake too . Crooked rows and loose steering ( my arms ) make it hard to just flip a large windrow . Sometimes it just lays it right over perfect and then 50 feet down it just ropes it up and the wet hay still ends up not on top . But I'm still experimenting with drawbar settings and rake height and basket tilt and soforth . I'll get it right when I can get a better rake I guess . ...Randy

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RickL

06-23-2006 05:56:56




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 Re: Wheel rakes in reply to Rexalot, 06-22-2006 08:40:20  
yea sometimes you are not always in the right spot driving. I hope to get inverter this season to try.



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