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old

06-20-2006 13:28:48




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Well I pulled in my friends hay wagon. One of those 4 wheel wagons and I need ideas on how to put a backing rack on it so he will not dump bales off the back when he pops the clutch on his tractor. I want to make it so its can be removed easy and also be strong enough to hold bales say 7 or so high. Thanks for any ideas/pictures

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Don-Wi

06-20-2006 23:48:14




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 Re: Need idea on how to in reply to old, 06-20-2006 13:28:48  
On 3 of our wagons, we've got some 1/4" x 4" bolted to the stringers, with another peice welded holding the 2 together making a U around it, we use hard wood 4x4's for the uprights and they lift right out. We make the backs about 5' tall, or about 4 layers.

If a 4x4 breaks, just unbolt it, line up a new one and re-drill the holes and rebolt it. We replaced one this weekend, only took about 1/2 hour to find the tools and fix it.

I stack 6-7 layers on those wagons no problem.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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MN Bob

06-20-2006 17:45:13




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 Re: Need idea on how to in reply to old, 06-20-2006 13:28:48  
Have been thinking of the same thing. I have in mind going from the stringers back with a u shape to hold the uprights. Welding in some supports below to attach the bottom of the support in a box. Holes drilled through could be pinned instead of bolted. The rest would be normal. May have to add some metal depending on the frame below deck. If he is a real clutch popper it may need something, (rope) added as you load it higher angled to the front bottom to support the top of the rear rack.

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Illinois Boy

06-20-2006 14:36:28




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 Re: Need idea on how to in reply to old, 06-20-2006 13:28:48  
Mr. old,
A friend of mine built one some years ago, using some big gate hinges and welded them to the angle iron around the bed frame. He hinged the backing rack so it could be let down, when needed and used as a ramp. The backing rack rested on the rear of the bed frame so as not to spring the hinges.
He ran some cables from about 2/3 of the way up the backing rack and attached them to the sides of the bed (angle iron) to keep it up and in place.
I don"t think he still has the wagon, but I"ll check and see - if so, I"ll start a new post and put on some pictures.

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Lemonl

06-20-2006 18:28:10




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 Re: Need idea on how to in reply to Illinois Boy, 06-20-2006 14:36:28  
I got this from this forum a few years ago, & it works great. It is very sturdy, and can be easily removed if needed. I collected all the suggestions I came across for a few years, & when the time came, this was my choice. I am doing another rack with the same this week.(my hay starts in about a week - nothing like waiting 'til the last minute!!)

Materials:
2pc 2�x2�x3/16� angle, 1� long each
2pc 2-1/2�black steel pipe, 1' long each
2pc 2� black steel pipe, 5-1/2� long each
4 pc 1�x2�x1/2� flat steel
3-1�x6�x8�

Assembly:

1. Weld 2-1/2 in pipe to outside of one flat of the angle
2. Bolt angle to inside of runners with at least 3-1/2� bolts
3. Weld 2-1� pc of flat steel to each 2� pipe 18�(I reduced this to 12") from one end, 180 degrees from each other.
4. Insert 2� pipe into 2-1/2� pipe. �� flats will stop pipe from sliding through
5. Drill and bolt with 5/16� bolts tailgate boards to pipes as above.

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Rexalot

06-21-2006 06:58:08




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 Re: Need idea on how to in reply to Lemonl, 06-20-2006 18:28:10  
My wagon already had the "hoops" or 2 1/2" by 4" angle brackets mounted to the end of the rails supporting the bed on the frame. I used 2 2x4x8 treated as the uprights. I bought 6 1x6x8 treated planks. I used these for the cross boards.

I cut the bottom board to 5', attached it to the uprights 12 inches from the bottom. This supports the uprights on the bed. I then spaced 4 more boards cut to 6' equally with the top board 6" from the end. I placed 1 board on the back diagonally to strengthen the uprights. Everything is screwed on together with deck screws except the brace board. It was bolted. I'll post a pic if anybody wants one.

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Illinois Boy

06-21-2006 07:15:09




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 Re: Need idea on how to in reply to Rexalot, 06-21-2006 06:58:08  
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Mr. old,
Here is a picture of a wagon at a dealer's place. My friend sold his wagon last year. This may give you some ideas.



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Illinois Boy

06-21-2006 07:32:36




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 Re: Need idea on how to in reply to Illinois Boy, 06-21-2006 07:15:09  
Here's some more...
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And another...

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Holding it together...

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From the rear...

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