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660 JD hay rake

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Greg inKY

06-20-2006 09:20:43




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What is one worth that looks to have been used very little but sit outside for 10+ years? The hitch is broke and practically all the rubber teeth will need to be changed. He is asking $500 "as is" and that seems a little high to me.

Is there a kit or something to put a dolly wheel on the front of these? Where and how much money? Is there a poor man's way to rig one using junk parts?


Thanks, Greg

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Illinois Boy

06-20-2006 11:52:57




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 Re: 660 JD hay rake in reply to Greg inKY, 06-20-2006 09:20:43  
Greg,
Unfortunately, a lot of people leave their equipment out, unprotected, but rust does not seem to matter much when it comes to prices - it"s all about the mechanical operation of the implement or tractor
I have a 660 - no dolly wheel, but from what I"ve heard, you don"t want to add one. Seems the mount for the wheel is a weak spot and prone to troubles. Use the stand. I use a bar through my 3 pt hitch arms to pick it up to the right height, block it, then back in to the hitch.
Replacing teeth is no big deal or real expense. The hitch can be fixed - but... makes me wonder what someone did to break that kind of iron! If the bearings seem ok and the rake wheels turn smoothly - and no problems with the wheel bearings, $500 is not bad. I"ve seen these rakes go for 1500 - 2000 bucks. Remember... it says John Deere on it, so you"re gonna pay more.

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Greg inKY

06-21-2006 05:29:46




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 Re: 660 JD hay rake in reply to Illinois Boy, 06-20-2006 11:52:57  
Thanks for the reply.

Don't know if I made myself clear-

The hitch is broken only where it connects to the tractor drawbar. Actally the lower lip where the drawbar pin goes through is OK-not even bent. The broken piece is the top lip that the drawbar pin goes through. That piece is missing/lost but should be a quick fix. The rake neck going to the hitch is fine. I don't know how it got broke but it had been fixed before-there is an old weld bead where it broke. I don't see any evidence that it hurt the rake anywhere else. I imagine that it broke going through a deep ditch or something-????? My imagination sometimes ain't much good.

I was asking about converting this rake to one that has the permanent wheel on the front and is pulled (while in use)by a tounge like a wagon. That is the only style I have personally used but have had several guys tell me that they are much better( more manuverable, shorter turning) than one without the wheel in front. Do you (or anyone) agree or disagree with that?

It appears that the wheel apperatust would be a bolt on job-judging by how the hitch is now bolted to the neck.

I called the JD dealership to see if they had a kit but they could only order the indivudual parts and after he got to about $600 with a bunch more parts needed I told him to "juss ferget 'bout it"

Thanks, Greg

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Illinois Boy

06-21-2006 10:52:42




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 Re: 660 JD hay rake in reply to Greg inKY, 06-21-2006 05:29:46  
Greg in KY,
Sorry, but I don"t have any experience with a dolly rake. I know exactly what you"re talking about - just never used one. I"ve heard pros and cons on both setups.
Pros usually go little weight on the tractor drawbar and easier to hook up. Cons usually center around damage and the expenses to fix and harder to manuever in tight places because of a longer length. Open fields are fine.
To be honest, I don"t know!!! I"d say it"s a preference, but, as you ahve stated, it can be an expensive conversion.

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