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MN Bob

06-20-2006 04:48:30




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If any one could post a picture and give advise I would appreciate it greatly. 336 baler and farmhand 8 square accumulator. Where to mount and rig the pump?? Thanks, Bob




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RickL

06-21-2006 10:40:00




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 Re: Hooking up accumulator in reply to MN Bob, 06-20-2006 04:48:30  
most of those units were un off the flywheel with the two beklts you talked about. I run my unit direct offthe tractor period.



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KIP in MX

06-20-2006 08:09:12




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 Re: Hooking up accumulator in reply to MN Bob, 06-20-2006 04:48:30  
After you get it all hooked up as BobMo says, then comes the fun part of adjusting the trip lever that the bales hit coming out of the baler and learning not to be stopped or turning when it dumps the bales. If you�ve been using it on another baler, disregard, as you already know this.



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BobMo

06-20-2006 07:39:33




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 Re: Hooking up accumulator in reply to MN Bob, 06-20-2006 04:48:30  
Bob, I'll try to help you out as much as I can based on the hookup I have on my NH 315.
1st decide where you want to mount your reservoir. You may be restricted by the hoses you have but I mounted mine on the baler side behind the flywheel.
I mounted the pump between the tractor and the baler. This may cause you to have to lengthen the drawbar so you don't damage the pump or the baler when turning. Make sure the pump is chained to the tractor so it can neither come off nor turn.
Square up the accumulator behind the baler by attaching the hitch on the accum. to the wagon hitch on the baler and checking the distance at both sides of the accum to make sure it tracks directly behind the baler. On the side opposite the hitch, attach the long bar to the accum and see where the end that attaches to the baler needs to be located. This bar must be perpendicular to the accum. You should have 3 hinge points, 1 at the hitch and 1 at each end of the long bar between the baler and the accumulator. You may have to weld or bolt a piece of angle to the baler axle. Remember this thing carries a pretty good load. When you get this far send me an email at [email protected] and I can help you further if required. Good luck..... .

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MN Bob

06-20-2006 15:47:53




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 Re: Hooking up accumulator in reply to BobMo, 06-20-2006 07:39:33  
Well I pulled the baler out today and tried visualizing the mounting of the pump. The rig this guy sold with the accumulator has a resevoir built in. He gave me 2 belts with it. But the mounting frame is sideways to the baler and the pump is about 14 inchs deep, sticks out past the wheels. He told me he took it off a 336. Oh Well, time to start farmhand engineering 101. If push comes to shove I would like to try and run it off the tractor but dont know the flow rate or pressure required. Any one have that? No hoses came with it so its buy whatever is needed. Thnaks guys. Bob

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BobMo

06-20-2006 16:31:38




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 Re: Hooking up accumulator in reply to MN Bob, 06-20-2006 15:47:53  
Of course KIP is absolutely correct but your a ways from there yet. The accumulator will function at a very low flow rate. Mine has a Prince PTO driven pump which is very simple and will operate at pto idle speed. Remember when buying hose you only need high pressure from the pump to the front piping of the accumulator. The return to resevoir line should be larger and low pressure. I do not have spec or a manual but this unit is very simple. Good luck..

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MN Bob

06-20-2006 17:32:29




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 Re: Hooking up accumulator in reply to BobMo, 06-20-2006 16:31:38  
thanks again. I will be out at the farm again tomorrow and will try to find a way to mount the pump. Short of that I have to resort to tractor hydralics. Thanks for the tip on the pressure. Bob



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BobMo

06-21-2006 06:29:03




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 Re: Hooking up accumulator in reply to MN Bob, 06-20-2006 17:32:29  
Bob, I didn't quite understand how they had previously had the pump set up. Was the pump driven off the flywheel or what drove the two belts?



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MN Bob

06-21-2006 16:52:02




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 Re: Hooking up accumulator in reply to BobMo, 06-21-2006 06:29:03  
I am sure he ran it off the flywheel. But, if he had it on a 336 JD I will eat the whole thing. He may have at one time had it on a 12 or 24T but not a 336. Looking at today and a neighbor with 24T stopped by. He said I have one of those, but you cant mount that pump unit on a 336. So now I know. I am going to email Rick and ask him about the direct to tractor hookup. Thanks, Bob



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