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wally b

06-08-2006 08:06:27




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I'm new to haying and will be cutting soon. When is the best time to rake grass hay after its cut (approx past yields 1-1.5 ton/acre). I was thinking I would cut and rake the day after. I was also thinking of raking a second time right berfore baling. Is this second raking necessary?

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paul

06-08-2006 20:33:43




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 Re: when to rake hay in reply to wally b, 06-08-2006 08:06:27  
Depends too much on humidity, dew, sunshine or cloudy, thickness of the crop, etc. Sicle mower, or mower-conditioner....

Here in MN typically cut one day, rake about 36-48 hours later into "almost" windrows, then the next morning finish the last little roll of the windrow into a full one & bale that afternoon.

Once I cut one afternoon, raked & baled it the next afternoon.

Many times I have gone 5 days or more to get it raked into a dry windrow.

So, it all depends. Experience will guide you. Need to rake it when it is about dry, but not bone dry or the leaves shatter off (alfalfa is very critcal on this; grass hay not as much). In humid or dampish conditions, need to tun it when it is dried 1/2 way thorugh, so the other side gets what little sun/wind there is to dry - as well as allowing the ground to dry, so you can rake it back the next day.

Yea, it really depends....

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kyhayman

06-08-2006 19:35:54




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 Re: when to rake hay in reply to wally b, 06-08-2006 08:06:27  
Thats one of those, it depends..... on where you are and what the hay is doing and the forecast.

This year, so far....

a. cut day 1, tedded day 1, raked day 3, baled day 3
b. cut day 1, tedded day 2, raked day 3, baled day 3
c. cut day 1, raked day 3, baled day 3
d. cut day 1, raked day 2, baled day 3
e. cut day 1, raked day 3, baled day 4
f. cut, raked, baled, wrapped day 1

IF, IF I have a clear forecast, I like to rake a day ahead of baling. Any chance of rain and I like the rake right in front of the baler. Thats the one differnece with people where tedders arent common. Raking and letting hay cure on down in the windrow is great but here, we may normally have a 30% chance of getting an inch of rain every day during the summer, and then it may rain for a week. Nothing worse than hay rained on in the windrow.

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WyoDave

06-08-2006 18:27:43




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 Re: when to rake hay in reply to wally b, 06-08-2006 08:06:27  
Raking hay? Don't ask me I've never done it.
David



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Reaver

06-08-2006 15:41:22




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 Re: when to rake hay in reply to wally b, 06-08-2006 08:06:27  
This brings up a good question for me.
We typically cut with disc mower (no conditioner) one day, rake the next day, bale the next day.
Now the question is...lots of people have a tedder rake, we do not, we rake into windrow second day and the hay that was on bottom drys quite a bit in the row before bailing the following day...this seems pretty efficient way to go to us...what are we missing with all these tedder rakes?
Thanks Reaver

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MN Bob

06-09-2006 17:36:11




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 Re: when to rake hay in reply to Reaver, 06-08-2006 15:41:22  
Reaver; Where are you located? I guess you are in a dry climate from your post. Those of us that have 60 to 80 % humidity most summer days with 70 to occasional 90 degree weather have to "dry" harder/longer. With rain threats constant it makes it a battle. Bob



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Nat 2

06-09-2006 13:26:11




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 Re: when to rake hay in reply to Reaver, 06-08-2006 15:41:22  
If the hay is drying out for you, then you ain't missing a thing. You can't do better than cut one day, rake and bale the next.



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Sid

06-08-2006 16:35:09




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 Re: when to rake hay in reply to Reaver, 06-08-2006 15:41:22  
From what you tell us, in your situation You could cut this afternoon. Run tedder tomorrow morning as soon as dew is gone(if any) rake and bale tomorrow afternoon. Around here a tedder is not always needed but it has helped many a time. Sometimes we dont have the three or four day needed to get a cutting in. For example this year I had clover that was not even wilted and it looked as if rain was coming that evening. I tedded 12 acres. Hooked on to the rake and raked seven acres of grass. I planned on baling the seven acres before I raked the 12. When I looked at the 12 I raked it. Then I hooked on the baler and startred baling. It rained that night. No way would I have got that clover up without a tedder.

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JC in ky

06-08-2006 15:28:36




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 Re: when to rake hay in reply to wally b, 06-08-2006 08:06:27  
im in south central ky and most usually if the rain holds off we can cut one day and roll about two days later, also if it is real humid we usually run a hay tedder over it on the first day after cutting to help it cure faster, this also helps if it happend to get rained on. well theres my two cents. ttyl jc



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Nebraska Cowman

06-08-2006 11:57:57




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 Re: when to rake hay in reply to wally b, 06-08-2006 08:06:27  
If you live in a country where it rains, NEVER rake unless you are sure it is dry enough you can bale the same day. If you live in dry country, NEVER rake unless you can bale the same day because the wind will blow it away.

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Don-Wi

06-08-2006 11:41:26




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 Re: when to rake hay in reply to wally b, 06-08-2006 08:06:27  
SOMETIMES it"s not nessesary to rake at all, I"m saying this and I live in NE Wisconsin, where we can get rain every 3-5 days making haying difficult. If you cut with a sickle bar or lay your swaths wide open from the haybine, yeah you"re not going to get away form raking atleast once.

On good hot days we can cut 1st crop, bale it 3 days later and not have to rake it at all. it turns out really nice too. That is also with a 9" machine. This year we steped up to a 14" Hesston, still haven"t used it because it wasn"t ready for the first 2 feilds, and now we"re not ready to cut the rest until Sunday. We"re probably going to have to rake it just because of the shear volume in a windrow, and the narrow crimper rolls, but it"ll still save time and fuel vs. double raking our 9" cut to make 18" in a windrow. Like the others said, it depends on your location because what they do in Texas won"t fly in Wisconsin 99% of the time.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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Allan In NE

06-08-2006 10:08:49




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 Re: when to rake hay in reply to wally b, 06-08-2006 08:06:27  
Wally,

You have to wait until the crop "wilts" before raking. Usually the next day after cutting.

Allan



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bvomark

06-08-2006 08:35:31




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 Re: when to rake hay in reply to wally b, 06-08-2006 08:06:27  
It depends where you are located and what the weather conditions are. I am in NE Oklahoma. I can cut one afternoon and bale the next day. If your weather is like mine for grass hay I would cut in the afternoon, rake the next afternoon and bale as soon as possible after raking. I have 2 tractors so one can be raking and the other start baling with an hour or so.

If you are cooler or damper it may take more time for the hay to cure. If you have neighbors maybe they can give you a better idea.

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Illinois Boy

06-08-2006 10:55:32




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 Re: when to rake hay in reply to bvomark, 06-08-2006 08:35:31  
Yep - depends on location, humidity - all affects drying time.
I like to rake after the dew is gone and try to bale it the same afternoon.



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