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Loren

06-07-2006 20:39:52




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Mines a twine job. I think someone set the needles wrong on mine going by the procedure for the tucker finger. I've got a manual on the way but that's then...
I was told the manual states to set the tucker fingers to 1/32-3/32" clearance from the needles at the set mark on the needles. Then to set the finger push rods to center the tip of the finger within 1/16" from center of needle. ?? I'd have to guess this means the right/left center of the needle? Problem is that if that's the adjustment I can't even begin to reach that with the rods. The rods are 1/8" away from the "nut" at this setting. Can someone confirm/deny this for me please.

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Chuck, WA

06-08-2006 12:44:58




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 Re: Another 214 question. in reply to Loren, 06-07-2006 20:39:52  
Nice to see 214s discussed. When I first got mine needed a lot of little things fixed. Major breakthrough came when we found that the resistors were worn smooth. Other bix ones were to replace the springs in the mechanism that holds the wire in the cutter and putting the comnpressor back on (previous owner had removed it) helped a lot too.

Unfortunately for you, mine's wire, and I don't even understand your terminology. Have the manuals and they cover both, but I'm at work and they're at home, and I'd guess that by the time I'd get into them and learn the terminology, you'd have your own manuals.

If I remember, I'll take a look when I get hom in the vicinity of the needle setting section and if I can follow what you're saying enough, will try to verify or correct. But, let's hope you get better help than mine sooner.

Chuck, WA

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unifarmor

06-08-2006 07:40:00




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 Re: Another 214 question. in reply to Loren, 06-07-2006 20:39:52  
I'm in Oregon as well. Have had no experience with JD but know about Freeman and New Holland.

If it were one those you would first set the needles. Trip the knotter and run them all the way into the knotter. As you run them in check the clearance between the inside of the needle and the twine finger disc. The needle eye should clear the twine finger disc by 1/8". Adjust the individual needles to get this measurement. (JD is probably same) Then see what your book says about the distance the needles travel into the chamber. Once you know those two adjustments are correct you can set the tucker fingers.
I trip the knotter and run the needles up again. As the needle travels up and the tucker finger passes the inside of the needle it should clear by 1/8 inch. Adjust this by loosening the bolt that holds the tucker finger to the chamber and sliding the tucker finger back and forth.
If you can't get the proper adjustment by doing this and you have to adjust the drive rods it gets more complicated. It is not difficult just frustrating.
Hope this helps. If you email me I'll try to help...

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Loren

06-08-2006 06:48:08




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 Re: Another 214 question. in reply to Loren, 06-07-2006 20:39:52  
I's een Oreegone. :>) I'll be real glad when the manual gets here! Don't know what to say at the moment, going to work. The terminology I used is right out of the quote he gave from the manual. Maybe he "translated" before the quote..??



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Dave H (MI)

06-08-2006 06:22:14




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 Re: Another 214 question. in reply to Loren, 06-07-2006 20:39:52  
I have two 224T balers and I cannot understand a word your saying or even what your problem is. IF the knot is hanging on to the billhook then the most common issue is a gunked up knotter mechanism and incomplete travel of the swiper arm.
Give it a modest cleaning and work the swiper through it's entire range several times. Then try it in the field. About 99% of the time that fixes it for me. Take the easy route before you start with the wrenches...especially without a manual.

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Dick A

06-08-2006 06:05:02




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 Re: Another 214 question. in reply to Loren, 06-07-2006 20:39:52  
Where are you from Loren? Your phraseology is unamerican.



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