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Haybine and remote hydraulics

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Kari

06-07-2006 05:06:43




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I am currently runnig a MF 35 without remote hydraulics, and a scycle bar mower. I want to upgrade the mower to a haybine, but realize this would mean remote hydraulics.
Since the MF35 will be gone next year, I am wondering if there is a quick and easy solution.

I have only ever run a scycle bar, so I am a little unsure. Do you need to lift on every corner with a haybine? Could you plumb a manual pump/jack?

Any thoughts?

Kari

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JJ. in B.C.

06-07-2006 22:44:05




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 Re: Haybine and remote hydraulics in reply to Kari, 06-07-2006 05:06:43  
Hi Kari

If you go to the MF forum, find one of Big Deans' posts, either post or email your questions to him he will surely know the answers and probably has pictures.

Regards JJ.



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Allan In NE

06-07-2006 12:13:16




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 Re: Haybine and remote hydraulics in reply to Kari, 06-07-2006 05:06:43  
I cut 35 acres this morning and lifted the gizmo once to come back to the yard.

Allan



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JMS/MN

06-07-2006 07:49:38




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 Re: Haybine and remote hydraulics in reply to Kari, 06-07-2006 05:06:43  
No, you don't normally raise the header on the corners. However, if you do the outside rounds, then split the field and cut it just lengthwise as you would with a swather, you would lift it at each end so as not to disturb the end rows. You can use a ratchet lift, but I sure wouldn't want to do that for long. Check into what it would take to add a remote on your tractor- some are simple additions like a hydraulic block and valve.

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Hay DR

06-07-2006 05:59:27




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 Re: Haybine and remote hydraulics in reply to Kari, 06-07-2006 05:06:43  
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Yes a CCM Drum mower:
-Needs no exterior hydraulics
-Mows 3-5 acres per hour
-Mows any crop in any condition, even in the rain
-Will not clog up
-Quick Change blades
-Models fron 20 HP and up
-Proven PZ design



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Rexalot

06-07-2006 07:54:42




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 Re: Haybine and remote hydraulics in reply to Hay DR, 06-07-2006 05:59:27  
You don't need to pick up the unit on every corner.

However, I have found with my 9ft swath NH 469 that occassionally it'll get a ball of hay going under the shoe that rides the ground. This requires me to lift the unit for a moment.

It could be done with a hand pump, just doesn't seem all that practical if time (starting and stopping everytime you need to lift the unit) is a factor.

Could you install a front mounted pump on the MF35 along with a control valve? (like a loader would use) I'm not familiar with the MF35 tractor, but my 871 has a valve where a hose can be screwed in should external hydrualics be required. It's under the seat on my tractor.

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Jason, NW Ontario

06-07-2006 16:19:42




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 Re: Haybine and remote hydraulics in reply to Rexalot, 06-07-2006 07:54:42  
That's where the outlet is for my Fordson Major, too. Either mount a pump, or there'll be an outlet at the back somewhere. Just have to get the lines and valve.



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FreeRanger

06-07-2006 11:22:14




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 Tell me more about remote hydraulics in reply to Rexalot, 06-07-2006 07:54:42  
I have similar problem with 1955 Ford 600 pulling a NH 469 haybine.

I am trying to use the "accessory plate" under the seat to provide remote hydraulics. Tying down the 3pt is not easy. Even when I acheive that the system does not seem to have enough pressure to lift the haybine.

Where can I learn more about front mounted pumps or hand pumps?

I just want to drop it on the ground for the season and then lift it up in the Fall.

Any advice on hydraulics for an old Ford 600?

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Bob Semrau

06-07-2006 13:40:02




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 Re: Tell me more about remote hydraulics in reply to FreeRanger, 06-07-2006 11:22:14  
You should be able to get a valve from TISCO which will allow you to control a remote without chaining down the 3PT arms. It isn't cheap, though. My NAA has a SelecTrol valve which does the same thing, but it's much more rare than the valve for 1955 and up models.



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FreeRanger

06-07-2006 15:06:13




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 Re: Tell me more about remote hydraulics in reply to Bob Semrau, 06-07-2006 13:40:02  
OK, I found TISCO and I think I found some kits but which one does what? I know VERY little about hydraulics.

Looks like part # DGPNB950S2-KIT?

They don't give you much description of the parts.. anybody have a photo of this setup?



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