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ted492

06-05-2006 17:24:31

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I have an intl 35 side delivery rake and would like to get a tedder. Can anyone tell me how a rake/tedder works and what would be a good low cost option for me since I have small acreages. Would I be better off keeping my intl and getting a cheap tedder or getting a combo unit. Like I said I have small acreage and smaller extra money.You guys are a wealth of info so I know some of you will have a good opinion for me. Thanks!

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Charlie M

06-06-2006 18:01:56

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Re: rake/tedder in reply to ted492, 06-05-2006 17:24:31

I used to ted with my old New Idea and IH rakes and it is better than nothing but a real tedder works a lot better. I also found tedding seem to tear up the rakes - maybe due to there age.

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Errin OH

06-06-2006 06:39:54

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Re: rake/tedder in reply to ted492, 06-05-2006 17:24:31

Not sure of the exact model numbers (see pic), but A New Idea tedder/rake can be had cheap (under $100) and work fairly well. The trick is speed. Since the wheels drive the basket you need to find the correct speed to flip it back. Both models have a selector switch for the roller bars (forward, neutral, reverse). Select direction and set tine angle and away you go. Only takes a min or two to switch to one from the other. I have had both (steel and rubber) and still have one on steel. I took it out yesterday just to give it some exercise.

Personally if you can afford a basket tedder I'd say go that way. Really tosses it about and spreads it out. However, don't take that as a dig on the NI. Your looking at a $100 bucks vs a $1000. When properly set up and running at the right speed it does a good job of it for the dollars spent.

If I had any complaints about the NI it would be the fact it moves the windrow over during tedding (nature of the angled basket). Had to give some thought to the direction of travel before hand so you didn't throw your first row in the ditch or two rows together.

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Tim Schnakenberg

08-01-2006 20:09:22

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Re: rake/tedder in reply to Errin OH, 06-06-2006 06:39:54

I agree that this rake is very useful for the price. $500 sounds steep however. Dad bought a steel wheeled version in 1982 from a man who bought it second-hand in 1936. Though most parts had been replaced over the years, it still had much use left in it. We still use it occasionally to ted hay. A wonderful machine but it takes an hour to grease all the zerts.

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Leroy

06-06-2006 18:56:10

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Re: rake/tedder in reply to Errin OH, 06-06-2006 06:39:54

The one on steel is a No. 4 and the one on rubber is a 45. and remember when they were designed it was not for a tractor but for horses and the speed a horse would walk at that would be about 2 1/2 mile per hour, that is where the tractor gearing for plowing came from, so do not run too much faster or they will fly to pieces. Now those steel wheel No. 4 rakes sell for in the $500 range and when I get the several I have here now reconditioned-rebuilt I will be able to sell every one I have as that is the most desireable rake with the Amish. Also used one for hundreds of acres, the second tail wheel is designed to tip up for use with a tractor at slightly faster speeds so the hay is not rapped in tedding around that wheel then for raking you put that wheel back down again, and I have seen them from running with that wheel turned up the frame broken due to stress. One That I have here now to rebuild is like that.

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Sam (MO)

06-06-2006 05:12:52

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Re: rake/tedder in reply to ted492, 06-05-2006 17:24:31

I have a NH 245 rake/tedder. I really like it. I can do 14 feet raking ot tedding. They are heavy things so a good size tractor would be nice. I you were to look at a NH look at a 255. They made some improvements to grease fittings and items like that. Once it's set up I believe you would like them, will save alot of time.

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JRT

06-05-2006 19:37:04

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Re: rake/tedder in reply to ted492, 06-05-2006 17:24:31

I have a New Holland Rake/Tedder That is actually an excellent rake But tends to pile very thick hay when teddering. I like it though because it saves a lot of time not having to change equipment. In about 2 minutes I can change from rake to tedder and that makes it worth using. It will also pull in 14 ft. of hay or tedder 2, 7 ft. rows of cut hay. It is awfully heavy and takes a pretty good size tractor to handle it.

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KEH

06-05-2006 18:44:54

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Re: rake/tedder in reply to ted492, 06-05-2006 17:24:31

I have never owned a rake/tedder but people I know who have used them were not too impressed. They said the units did not do either job all that well. If your rake is in good shape I would keep it and look for a cheap tedder. I do have a tedder and like it.

KEH

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RodInNS

06-06-2006 08:52:07

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Re: rake/tedder in reply to KEH, 06-05-2006 18:44:54

The trick to making the NH tedder/rakes ted effectively is to put them in a conventional tedding mode. Flip the arms up out of their cam tracks, and tip the rotor ahead. Keep the frame set in it's narrowest position, and then it works as effectively as any Kuhn tedder. As far as I'm concerned it builds the best row of any rake I've ever seen. Better than the Kuhn I have now. The big thing the Kuhn has going for it is that it's a lot more reliable. It still does a good job, but the side delivery nature of it puts more hay in one side of the row. I don't like that for making round bales. The quality of the 254's work has never been in doubt for me; just it's reliability. There's nothing like having your tedder and rake go down with 30 acres flat, and rain on the horizon..... I carry more inventory for that bloody rake than the nearest NH warehouse.

Rod

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